Sign petition -save a mother in Iran sentenced to death

[TanjaDe_Profund]

http://freesakineh.org/

Maybe, this is not a topic for the forum.. But sign it! Thanks
And share with your contacts

[Besos para ella]

Signed it

[bisexual Bill]

I signed the petition.

My heart goes out to the women of Iran and to the bisexual and gay men being tortured, killed, and imprisoned by their government and own families.

There's someone on this site who likes to claim that Iran is not all that bad and are sympathetic to Iran and its current backwards government. He claims that such inhumane things are greatly exaggerated by the Western media. :rolleyes:

[H0wardmoon]

I signed the petition.

My heart goes out to the women of Iran and to the bisexual and gay men being tortured, killed, and imprisoned by their government and own families.

There's someone on this site who likes to claim that Iran is not all that bad and are sympathetic to Iran and its current backwards government. He claims that such inhumane things are greatly exaggerated by the Western media. :rolleyes:


Actually, it was myself, and this is what I wrote:


"Not exactly. While women's rights are compromised in Iran, they have made strides. In other words, it's complicated. They are definitely not "chattel slaves," however. Almost 70% of science and engineering students are women. Women were active in the attempts to vote out Ahmenijad."

I stand by my statement that they are not "chattel slaves." They are certainly not in the position they are in Saudi Arabia, which I believe is an official ally of the U.S., or at least tolerated.

I signed the petition. It's a monstrous thing Iran is doing. Women's rights are threatened in Iran. However, to claim that Iranian women are "chattel slaves" or "men's property" is simply inaccurate. To do so is an insult to the Iranian women who have fought hard for their rights.

I've noticed your tendency to make remarks about people (specifically NotLost and myself) without mentioning them or directly addressing them. I think that is uncalled for.

[bisexual Bill]

H0ward I was not talking about you. Go and try to get laid. Women do not have rights in Iran.

One could easily argue that a Nun has more of a choice in whether she becomes a nun and wears the habit than the wife of conservative muslim has in wearing a burqa. In all likelihood the woman in the burqa was forced into her marriage by the males in her family and forced to stay in it by the males in her family and her husband and his family. I guess she could choose to risk an honor killing, but that's only if she ever got out of the house in the first place and found out there was an alternative.

Death, rape, torture, and disfigurement are all things that women who are second class citizens in Iran and other Muslim countries go through. There may be, of course, some exceptions to that, but the vast majority of Muslim women DO NOT have a choice to being submissive and subservient to men.

To say otherwise is disingenuous.

And, yes, I think my culture is wayyyy better than theirs in this regard. I think any culture that thinks women are property and belong in a body bag when then leave the house is absolutely inferior.

[H0wardmoon]

H0ward I was not talking about you. Go and try to get laid. Women do not have rights in Iran.

Again, an uncalled for comment about my own sexuality. And since you do not live in Iran, I don't see how you are the expert.


One could easily argue that a Nun has more of a choice in whether she becomes a nun and wears the habit than the wife of conservative muslim has in wearing a burqa. In all likelihood the woman in the burqa was forced into her marriage by the males in her family and forced to stay in it by the males in her family and her husband and his family. I guess she could choose to risk an honor killing, but that's only if she ever got out of the house in the first place and found out there was an alternative.

The Burqa is not the required dress in Iran. The headscarf is required, but that has not stopped them from participating in political demonstrations, many different occupations, and even sports. You are probably thinking of Saudi Arabia again.



Death, rape, torture, and disfigurement are all things that women who are second class citizens in Iran and other Muslim countries go through. There may be, of course, some exceptions to that, but the vast majority of Muslim women DO NOT have a choice to being submissive and subservient to men.
Here are some pictures of Iranian women being submissive and subservient.

http://touchiran.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/011.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/08/01/article-0-0AA2B5D6000005DC-667_468x363.jpg
http://www.onlydemocracy4iran.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/15-431x300.jpg
http://media.washtimes.com/media/image/2009/07/23/20090722-222740-pic-175694453_s640x427.jpg?73b8e21685896c3f2859310aaa5 adb253919b641

Yep, a lot of shrinking violets there. That took about two minutes on google.
Admit it, you have no idea what you're talking about.




To say otherwise is disingenuous.

And, yes, I think my culture is wayyyy better than theirs in this regard. I think any culture that thinks women are property and belong in a body bag when then leave the house is absolutely inferior.

Do you know *anything* about Iran? Seriously? It's not a perfect country in the least. The penalty given to this woman is obscene. However, it is not a country where women are not allowed to go out in the streets without a male and must wear burqas. That happens in a country that is an ALLY of the US. Your comments show only ignorance and a willingness to tar all Muslims with the same broad brush.

[DuckiesDarling]

Sorry, not signing it.


We may not like it, but it's their laws. We have no right to tell them what they can and can not do no matter how offensive it is to us and they have no right to tell us in the West what we should or shouldn't do.

[Long Duck Dong]

one guestion..... a petition to stop the female being put to death ??????

considering that the same female was given lashes cos a UK newpaper posted info about her that was incorrect, and resulted in her being punished.... how can we be sure that the petition is not gonna make matters worse...not better....

btw, why only one female.... is she the only female in that country that is facing punishment ???????