Games, Trolls, Haters, Sites

[void()]

First I will expound on something which once understood can act as reference for the whole of this missive. I grew up not unlike most of America's next to last generation finding, at some point and means abused.

The short of it, I had emotional retardation in growing up. Still have to be careful as an adult but have it under control for the most. Emotional retardation has nothing to do with intellectual retardation, nor does it imply lack of intellect. In fact many whom suffer from emotional problems are quite smart.

In the past two years I have grown drastically, emotionally. Not exactly sure why but the whole notion of "hey, I'm in control, not the emotions", has seemed to have clicked resoundingly.

This noted, I began a foray into computing at a young age. At thirteen one of the 'special' schools I attended had an instructor show us an Apple II E. It was sort of neat, had a modem, DARPA was making the Internet back then.
The instructor had a few contacts, give me a little room to explore. Considering he became aware that I had read 75-90% of our local collegiate libraries, guess he thought I could handle it.

That brings us to now. May have warped by some years between. Now, I visit this site and see a troll. We keep having trolls visit our site. But then lots of people consider plurality as an entity of itself. That is to say they see many trolls. I see one with plurality used as means of obscurity. This obscurity is used as poorly woven camouflage mesh.

The troll thinks using many handles or user names provides cover for them. Well, I have no sorrow or regret in saying it does not. The only thing it does beyond implying cowardice is implying immaturity, lack of articulation, lack of self respect. Of course, this is apt for someone whom hates.

They hang back, play games with people. They prey upon emotions only to divert these emotions back upon the victim/s.

Frankly, I am not here for games. This is site for people whom are bisexual to socialize, safely. It is a site for partners of bisexuals, trans-gendered, cross dressing folks all to come and do the same. None of us are here for games, drama or to be anyone else's cheap entertainment.

Yes, we can be entertained here. And that is fine. I'm not discussing such aspect of entertainment. What I mean is someone deliberately sniping people in our web based community, winding them up, letting them go and watching and having a laugh. Or worse, they come in and seemingly earn your trust only to have you find out they're a homophobic and xenophobic racist bigot.

I have seen much the same done on many other sites, chats. Never stops until someone says "fuck you trolls, we ain't taking it." Ignoring them can work and I do to a degree. They also need told very clearly to fuck off, as well.

And this troll may cause me to withdraw from friends here. Those whom are will be endeared and recognized. Please grant me patience and understanding. I like being control and not letting one or two emotions drive. They end up driving folks away. No one needs that, nor the troll.

[keefer201]

Interesting to say the least. The only experience I have with what you are saying, and that is just as a viewer, has beein in AOL chatrooms. I am very new to this site, just short of three months, and although this has not happened to me I am sure of what you speak is true. I really don't give any one person, unless he/she has established themselves either in chat or on posts here, the time to get under my skin. In fact quite the opposite has happened. Replying to certain threads here has giving me an opportunity to have my ass waxed a few times by a certain female, and a funny thing happened; I respect that womans opinion probably more than anyone elses here. I guess what I am trying to say is that I know that there are some real chooches here and I've frustrated a few because I won't give them the time of day to play a game with me. One had the nerve to call me a whore; how he came to that conclusion I have no idea.....I just credited myself as a slut..(snickers). Void, you are a very intelligent man and many times extreme intelligencee makes us vulnerable to others attempts to manipulate or hurt. I am one to believe the thought that it's better to feel too much than to feel too little.

[Long Duck Dong]

many years I have been in forums as a mod / admin and I have seen many types of trolls..... they come in all forms, shapes and ways.....

as long as the rights to freedom of expression exists, so will trolls.... and while they can be banned from sites, they breed like rabbits, but they all share one thing in common, trolls are inbred, and their intelligence level reflects that.... and the reason why I say they are inbred, is that their own personal understanding of themselves and their reason for existing, only serves as reason for them to create more and more accounts and personas, yet all have the same * mother and father *......

but we have the 3 billy goats gruff of the net on our side..... common sense, the ability to read and not respond... and the option to ignore......

hugs void.....

[darkeyes]

Voidie... as the ole sayin goes... keep your friends close.. and ur enemies closer... chill luffly man and huggle in Fran's arms... we'll be fine..:smirlove2

[void()]

Interesting to say the least. The only experience I have with what you are saying, and that is just as a viewer, has beein in AOL chatrooms. I am very new to this site, just short of three months, and although this has not happened to me I am sure of what you speak is true. I really don't give any one person, unless he/she has established themselves either in chat or on posts here, the time to get under my skin. In fact quite the opposite has happened. Replying to certain threads here has giving me an opportunity to have my ass waxed a few times by a certain female, and a funny thing happened; I respect that womans opinion probably more than anyone elses here. I guess what I am trying to say is that I know that there are some real chooches here and I've frustrated a few because I won't give them the time of day to play a game with me. One had the nerve to call me a whore; how he came to that conclusion I have no idea.....I just credited myself as a slut..(snickers). Void, you are a very intelligent man and many times extreme intelligencee makes us vulnerable to others attempts to manipulate or hurt. I am one to believe the thought that it's better to feel too much than to feel too little.

"I am very new to this site, just short of three months, and although this has not happened to me I am sure of what you speak is true."

Often, the trolls reveal themselves as quite new users of this site. They somehow coincidentally appear within a brief duration from when some highly asinine forum posts appear. Many of us see these posts as controversial, not in their subject matter, but rather in their intent of dividing people on the site.

As examples there is an ever reoccurring posting/s of "Bisexuals Do Not Exist" or "The Gays Hate You" type of threads. This is followed on by the locust of 'new' users, whom usually lack details in their profiles. 'New' users also like tromping on the butterflies. The 'new' user often admits fearing, hating what they do not understand.

Here's a clue. Be nice, respectful. Be open, willing to learn with genuine compassion. Yes, people can tell if you're patronizing. Ask questions but understand if someone does not answer a question. Sometimes answers are not easy.

"I really don't give any one person, unless he/she has established themselves either in chat or on posts here, the time to get under my skin."

Have endured much here, jarhead. My step-father was a class A royal asshole, and crazy to boot. Real father was also something of an asshole as well, he did have common sense to stay away. Met with him at age seventeen. He wanted to play daddy to a man that grew up at age five.

One good thing he did was trying to discourage me from military service. Spent a few weeks with some buddies of his somewhere in GA, though we didn't stay in GA the whole time. These buddies wore funny ink, had crafty nick names like Wild Weasel, Doc, Sempy, Hose, Creep. Oddly these boys follow a creed going back quite a time. Call themselves something like Rangers, belong to units like 101st, 75th, Charlie Delta Whiskey.

These buddies accepted me, dubbed me 'Scout'. So, some of the best of in the business and out of it have tried 'getting under my skin'. Know it is a sin to say, but truth is I've never broken. There's a world of cold fury behind these eyes, which if loosed would ensure several towns over were painted red. That is self discipline. I don't let the nasty beast out. He is quite a sloppy surgeon.

The point being, over the past few years, this resolve of mine in not letting folks under the skin has only increased. I tolerate a very great deal, sir. I also know the difference between fleas and elephants. Do not think I am overstating, being dramatic. I do call spades, spades though. That seems to mess with folks. Oh well.

"I guess what I am trying to say is that I know that there are some real chooches here and I've frustrated a few because I won't give them the time of day to play a game with me."

Not one for games myself. Unless I am writing fiction to entertain, I am purely honest, to a fault some may say. I am brutal, direct. You can go hide and wait until the smoke clears if what I say offends. If I do cross a line, I apologize. But there is also a lot I do not apologize for.

I don't play games. You need to say something to me? Come right out and say it to me, you, not one of twenty fake user names. I'll say what I need to say point blank. Used to call a supervisor everything but white to his face. He deserved every bit of that flack, too. He was one of those "I'm everybody's buddy" types who only looked out for himself. <JOKE>If only killing the stupid were legal.</JOKE> Ah but enough joking, irony is often unbecoming.

I play straight, fair. Have learned that I need not tolerate game players. Will not tolerate them, no matter their user name, asshole is asshole.

"Void, you are a very intelligent man and many times extreme intelligencee makes us vulnerable to others attempts to manipulate or hurt."

<SARCASM & IRONY DRIPPING>
Thank you captain obvious. I was not aware people attempt manipulating the smart. I thought people were quite like the Care Bears of Disney. After all those men whom tried calling themselves my dad, showed me such fine examples of humanity. No clue people tried manipulating the smart, nope, none at all. :) Must be due to being so smart I'm stupid.
</SARCASM & IRONY DRIPPING>

Sorry, like I said. I'm in control. I have been for a long time, even when sometimes I neglected letting myself know it. And if I'm in control, not likely someone else will manipulate. I can claim ignorance about things. But guess what? I'm connected to the world's greatest free school and library. Search engines can lead me to the card catalog, I can look things up. And even experience can be found in books, and tales. That's why tales were first told, passing on of knowledge, experience. "Here's how to hunt bear. We went on a trip one night, torches blew out. Loud growling ..."

And this helps me stay in control. If I don't understand, I ask. If no reply comes, I ask elsewhere. Someone normally answers. People like sharing knowledge, people like stories, hearing them and telling them. I like listening, like piecing stories together. I like understanding because it is a key to being compassionate. Being compassionate is a key to being one with humanity. Without control these keys are taken from me. Well aware of people attempting to take away the keys.

They fail and will continue failing. I keep learning, growing, changing, living. I embrace the new, and the old. Balance is my name.


"I am one to believe the thought that it's better to feel too much than to feel too little."

Well, I have mixed feelings on this. Love is my greatest strength and weakness. At times people come and try abusing that. Normally, I smile and nod. But I do not have to smile and nod. I can actually refuse tolerating the abuse. I can stop feeling. And yes, I literally can cut on and off like a switch. That's one of those gifts abuse bestows, survival even if it means shutting down. I don't care to shut down like that. It often leads me into some quite dark places, challenges my grip on control.

End of the day, I feel a lot. And I still don't play games. Still dislike when others do. It is not playing fair, not honorable. You play games with me, forget being respected, being cared for or about, forget trying to create a bridge of friendship. I will burn it every time. Normally, I let others burn their own bridges, three strikes. Play games, I'll burn your fucking bridge.

You're not worth me if you need to play games. I'm out of your league.


That should summarize and repeat much of what I've said over the years, concisely. "Remember, only you can prevent forest fires." :)

LDD - Circles keep going round and round. *hugs* "trolls are inbred, and their intelligence level reflects that.... and the reason why I say they are inbred, is that their own personal understanding of themselves and their reason for existing, only serves as reason for them to create more and more accounts and personas, yet all have the same * mother and father *"

I agree. Look at the one on the line presently. We also have an ability to put them on display. If that causes them some discomfort, or seems we go to their level, I say there are times it is merited. Don't like needing to follow suit but sometimes the only way to have light is to drag it kicking and screaming from the cave. Light often ends things, especially if you accept fighting fire with fire as a tactic. And sometimes it is the only choice.

[void()]

Voidie... as the ole sayin goes... keep your friends close.. and ur enemies closer... chill luffly man and huggle in Fran's arms... we'll be fine..:smirlove2

<snuggle snarfs with abandon for a moment> Aye, just hate needing to feel like Ivan.

"Come on over for dinner. By the by, one plate will be randomly poisoned. I may even get the plate. Enjoy the feast."

Bloody tossers ought to dislodge their craniums from their arses. Will they? Nay, t'is but the simplest lesson in the alphabet, they think it quite brill to do as they do. Ruddy tired of tripe and fallow as soot and gruel. Bother, I ought to leave off too, nought to come.

[12voltman59]

When it comes to the issue of "trolls" who come to this site---I really think that the number who do that is really rather small---in comparison to the number of "troll attacks" we have had---it is my feeling that no more than say five or six individuals have been responsible for the majority of them---with at one time there being one major one who at one time was really raging----he would at the height of his troll reign---have an entire army of names that he came here under---with several of his "people" backing up what was posted by the OP, saying things in the same bat shit crazy way.

What was worse with him--he had a few of us that really but a burr in his big ass so he came to dog us--with me---the email account that is connected with this site---it was absolutely inundated with emails from him----under at least a half dozen different names that had similar patterns in their construction---and all of them having been generated at Gmail.

Other than all having the same whacked out names and coming from GMail----they often contained the same verbatim wording in each and the last feature that showed their common source----if I tried to respond to those emails--all of the messages I tried to send to "those people" would be blocked.

I have shared this sort of info before and I do so again just to give people the nature of that particular "troll" in the interest that if you fall victim to this sort of cyber attack----you can figure it might be that same person.

I do have to say that while I think this person comes back from time to time----his visits and mischief here seems to have largely abated----thankfully.

The large number of messages he sent to both the Bisexual.com's email system and my outside email were so big and relentless that I finally had to throw up my arms and block such messages from anyone who I did not put on my "Buddy List" here----I hated to do it--but felt I had no choice.

Sometimes now that I think he is mostly gone---I have thought of once again allowing anyone who wants to message me--but then again--I just don't know if I want to possibly open myself up to coming under such a barrage of "nasty grams" once again by a person who is obviously very "disturbed."

[pepperjack]

"I am very new to this site, just short of three months, and although this has not happened to me I am sure of what you speak is true."

Often, the trolls reveal themselves as quite new users of this site. They somehow coincidentally appear within a brief duration from when some highly asinine forum posts appear. Many of us see these posts as controversial, not in their subject matter, but rather in their intent of dividing people on the site.

As examples there is an ever reoccurring posting/s of "Bisexuals Do Not Exist" or "The Gays Hate You" type of threads. This is followed on by the locust of 'new' users, whom usually lack details in their profiles. 'New' users also like tromping on the butterflies. The 'new' user often admits fearing, hating what they do not understand.

Here's a clue. Be nice, respectful. Be open, willing to learn with genuine compassion. Yes, people can tell if you're patronizing. Ask questions but understand if someone does not answer a question. Sometimes answers are not easy.

"I really don't give any one person, unless he/she has established themselves either in chat or on posts here, the time to get under my skin."

Have endured much here, jarhead. My step-father was a class A royal asshole, and crazy to boot. Real father was also something of an asshole as well, he did have common sense to stay away. Met with him at age seventeen. He wanted to play daddy to a man that grew up at age five.

One good thing he did was trying to discourage me from military service. Spent a few weeks with some buddies of his somewhere in GA, though we didn't stay in GA the whole time. These buddies wore funny ink, had crafty nick names like Wild Weasel, Doc, Sempy, Hose, Creep. Oddly these boys follow a creed going back quite a time. Call themselves something like Rangers, belong to units like 101st, 75th, Charlie Delta Whiskey.

These buddies accepted me, dubbed me 'Scout'. So, some of the best of in the business and out of it have tried 'getting under my skin'. Know it is a sin to say, but truth is I've never broken. There's a world of cold fury behind these eyes, which if loosed would ensure several towns over were painted red. That is self discipline. I don't let the nasty beast out. He is quite a sloppy surgeon.

The point being, over the past few years, this resolve of mine in not letting folks under the skin has only increased. I tolerate a very great deal, sir. I also know the difference between fleas and elephants. Do not think I am overstating, being dramatic. I do call spades, spades though. That seems to mess with folks. Oh well.

"I guess what I am trying to say is that I know that there are some real chooches here and I've frustrated a few because I won't give them the time of day to play a game with me."

Not one for games myself. Unless I am writing fiction to entertain, I am purely honest, to a fault some may say. I am brutal, direct. You can go hide and wait until the smoke clears if what I say offends. If I do cross a line, I apologize. But there is also a lot I do not apologize for.

I don't play games. You need to say something to me? Come right out and say it to me, you, not one of twenty fake user names. I'll say what I need to say point blank. Used to call a supervisor everything but white to his face. He deserved every bit of that flack, too. He was one of those "I'm everybody's buddy" types who only looked out for himself. <JOKE>If only killing the stupid were legal.</JOKE> Ah but enough joking, irony is often unbecoming.

I play straight, fair. Have learned that I need not tolerate game players. Will not tolerate them, no matter their user name, asshole is asshole.

"Void, you are a very intelligent man and many times extreme intelligencee makes us vulnerable to others attempts to manipulate or hurt."

<SARCASM & IRONY DRIPPING>
Thank you captain obvious. I was not aware people attempt manipulating the smart. I thought people were quite like the Care Bears of Disney. After all those men whom tried calling themselves my dad, showed me such fine examples of humanity. No clue people tried manipulating the smart, nope, none at all. :) Must be due to being so smart I'm stupid.
</SARCASM & IRONY DRIPPING>

Sorry, like I said. I'm in control. I have been for a long time, even when sometimes I neglected letting myself know it. And if I'm in control, not likely someone else will manipulate. I can claim ignorance about things. But guess what? I'm connected to the world's greatest free school and library. Search engines can lead me to the card catalog, I can look things up. And even experience can be found in books, and tales. That's why tales were first told, passing on of knowledge, experience. "Here's how to hunt bear. We went on a trip one night, torches blew out. Loud growling ..."

And this helps me stay in control. If I don't understand, I ask. If no reply comes, I ask elsewhere. Someone normally answers. People like sharing knowledge, people like stories, hearing them and telling them. I like listening, like piecing stories together. I like understanding because it is a key to being compassionate. Being compassionate is a key to being one with humanity. Without control these keys are taken from me. Well aware of people attempting to take away the keys.

They fail and will continue failing. I keep learning, growing, changing, living. I embrace the new, and the old. Balance is my name.


"I am one to believe the thought that it's better to feel too much than to feel too little."

Well, I have mixed feelings on this. Love is my greatest strength and weakness. At times people come and try abusing that. Normally, I smile and nod. But I do not have to smile and nod. I can actually refuse tolerating the abuse. I can stop feeling. And yes, I literally can cut on and off like a switch. That's one of those gifts abuse bestows, survival even if it means shutting down. I don't care to shut down like that. It often leads me into some quite dark places, challenges my grip on control.

End of the day, I feel a lot. And I still don't play games. Still dislike when others do. It is not playing fair, not honorable. You play games with me, forget being respected, being cared for or about, forget trying to create a bridge of friendship. I will burn it every time. Normally, I let others burn their own bridges, three strikes. Play games, I'll burn your fucking bridge.

You're not worth me if you need to play games. I'm out of your league.


That should summarize and repeat much of what I've said over the years, concisely. "Remember, only you can prevent forest fires." :)

LDD - Circles keep going round and round. *hugs* "trolls are inbred, and their intelligence level reflects that.... and the reason why I say they are inbred, is that their own personal understanding of themselves and their reason for existing, only serves as reason for them to create more and more accounts and personas, yet all have the same * mother and father *"

I agree. Look at the one on the line presently. We also have an ability to put them on display. If that causes them some discomfort, or seems we go to their level, I say there are times it is merited. Don't like needing to follow suit but sometimes the only way to have light is to drag it kicking and screaming from the cave. Light often ends things, especially if you accept fighting fire with fire as a tactic. And sometimes it is the only choice.

Admitted this to u before; also grew up in a military family &/w abuse; have battled depression all of my life; used to read Poe as a youngster as well as other dark authors; have had so many "dark nights of the soul;" after one such night, I found myself trudging to a menial job one cold, wet, winter morning when I got a message ( u said u were also born under the veil), "they were nights of courage!" I also discovered long ago that "fighting fire with fire" is a very effective strategy when it comes to dealing with my enemies; they don't like being treated the way they treat others.:cool:

[41 6c 79]

Trolls. Ignore them. Bore them. Ban them. Lock Sign up when it gets bad.
This site gets very few trolls compared to some.

[Jobelorocks]

Unfortunately any forum site is bound to have it's fair share of trolls. le sigh. Some people are just assholes, some are just insecure and have a need to bring others down, while some are just fucking crazy and paranoid. I find that it is not worth letting people like that have any affect on what you decide to do with your time. Letting them get to you gives them the power and lets them get what they want, to alienate and hurt people.

[tenni]

I've never completely understood the pre occupation that some posters on this site have with labelling others as trolls? It seems that is done when some other poster has a viewpoint that differs from their own. However, I do read the odd post that makes me wonder. I have no idea if people have multi profiles but they do at times seem to post in interesting ways.

I guess that I should be frightened and am concerned when some who are called trolls agree with my divergent perspective. :eek::bigrin:

Group think?:( I looked up trolls and find that if you are provactive..you may be labelled a troll. Conformity rules?

[Jobelorocks]

I've never completely understood the pre occupation that some posters on this site have with labelling others as trolls? It seems that is done when some other poster has a viewpoint that differs from their own. However, I do read the odd post that makes me wonder. I have no idea if people have multi profiles but they do at times seem to post in interesting ways.

I guess that I should be frightened and am concerned when some who are called trolls agree with my divergent perspective. :eek::bigrin:

Group think?:( I looked up trolls and find that if you are provactive..you may be labelled a troll. Conformity rules?

See, I don't mind when people think differently than I do, but I think that some people do it in the wrong way. Some people instead of attacking arguments, they attack and belittle people. That is what makes someone a troll. They are common in real life and in forums like this. I remember a thread I started a while back that was particularly bad. It was just a thread about religious bisexuals and there was a couple of what I call "trolls" who were attacking religious people, basically saying they were stupid, weak-minded, and all sorts of horrible things. Instead of saying in a calm and articulate manner why they believe in being religious or even why they choose not to be religious, they decided to attacking and belittling other people for believing differently than they do.

They even later tried to play it off as they weren't that they were demonstrating how dumb these people are by getting them all riled up. So basically they just wanted to torment other people for fun. Not to mention torment people about something that is so central and important in their lives.

[pepperjack]

See, I don't mind when people think differently than I do, but I think that some people do it in the wrong way. Some people instead of attacking arguments, they attack and belittle people. That is what makes someone a troll. They are common in real life and in forums like this. I remember a thread I started a while back that was particularly bad. It was just a thread about religious bisexuals and there was a couple of what I call "trolls" who were attacking religious people, basically saying they were stupid, weak-minded, and all sorts of horrible things. Instead of saying in a calm and articulate manner why they believe in being religious or even why they choose not to be religious, they decided to attacking and belittling other people for believing differently than they do.

They even later tried to play it off as they weren't that they were demonstrating how dumb these people are by getting them all riled up. So basically they just wanted to torment other people for fun. Not to mention torment people about something that is so central and important in their lives.

I recall that thread & think I know who you're referring to; he was very offensive. And now, he is suspected of being a troll. During my interaction w/him I discovered him to come from a very dysfunctional background. Now that the pieces are somewhat falling into place, I feel a certain measure of empathy & compassion for him. No coincidence that I'm posting this while tv is on in the background w/an episode of Criminal Minds.:cool:

[12voltman59]

I've never completely understood the pre occupation that some posters on this site have with labelling others as trolls? It seems that is done when some other poster has a viewpoint that differs from their own. However, I do read the odd post that makes me wonder. I have no idea if people have multi profiles but they do at times seem to post in interesting ways.

I guess that I should be frightened and am concerned when some who are called trolls agree with my divergent perspective. :eek::bigrin:

Group think?:( I looked up trolls and find that if you are provactive..you may be labelled a troll. Conformity rules?


Tenni--the particular person that I talked about--he was a "troll" in every sense of the word--it was not a matter with him to have disagreements about matters of opinion etc--with that guy--there was no way he was gonna accept that---and that he made personal attacks on people and did his barrage of email inundations to me and others---under something like at least a half dozen names---he was all about being a bother and I don't recall or not if you were around during the height of what he did here or not---but he also would totally inundate the message board with his crazy and often very hateful postings--often posting up once again using a large number of "people."

There was a pattern to his postings that made it clear it was the same person----similar patterns in the names he used----usually names like "SloppySeconds" "Hitmeupmyhole" and such----he would post something "provocative" under one name----then under his other names--post up that each one agreed with the OP and often using the same tone and words verbatim---he did this in what I called "Drive By Postings"-with him doing like maybe ten or more such postings at one time---all in the same relative time frames.

It would be interesting---he would post up like that for a few days at a time--like he was in some sort of manic state---then it would slow down for a time--with a few scattered postings--then even stop for a few weeks--then all of a sudden----he would be back with new names and doing the same sort of postings under new names since Drew would have removed those past posts and blocked those names and having removed the profiles he had for them since what he posted was in violation of the rules that the site has for posting. If he did have anything included under those profiles beyond some basic info--they had the same sort of odd sexual things he liked to talk about that he was supposedly looking for or liked to do.

I do have to say---that anymore--if anyone starts doing "psycho talk" of the nature that person did--they very quickly get put on my ignore list and that does make it so much nicer to be here.

[tenni]

Voltie
I do not doubt your word or experience. I've been a member since mid 2006 but didn't pay much attention to the forum until 2009.

I did read at that point some personal attacks on posters for their body shape that seemed highly inappropriate to the thread topics. I also saw some a poster react in an oversensitive manner about their body shape towards new posters. I'd say that there was some uh..."issues" from both sides.

I understand from you and other posters that you received some nasty PM's and so I don't doubt the existence of this person but I've seen things from another perspective. In fact, I know that at least one new poster left due to the reaction of one person who felt that the new poster was making comments about their weight when they were not. Go figure. :(

[roy m cox]

well i like what the linden labs of second life is now doing , now if you do a form of trlling called greffing they now track your ip and mac address and ban or they have had some people put in jail by their loco police and i can't wait till other web site owners start doing the same thing, heh then we will see how much fun trolls have in jail and more :2cents: