Is going out with a transsexual the answer ?

[BatCox40]

I have just read the following article, [ http://enlightenedmale2000.com/Topics/gallery/the-female-form/transgender-women/ ] and i wonder how many would have anyting to do with a transsexual.

Would going with a transgender enable you to have the delights of a woman and a man at the same tim

[jhg50]

its the best of both worlds up to a point. most look like a women, act like a women and has the tits of a women but the cock of a man. only thing missing is the pussy but it is a great experience and different in many ways. glad i tried it

[MarieDelta]

Depends on the girl and you. You might check out the blog post I made yesterday on Safer sex with trans women and men.

[BatCox40]

Depends on the girl and you. You might check out the blog post I made yesterday on Safer sex with trans women and men.

Where do i find it? I cant seem to find it

[IndyBiFun]

I have to say that it was a tremendous experience for me. In fact, one of the best relationships I have ever been in.

[Long Duck Dong]

I have some transgender friends and they are fantastic people..... but for me it would be more than just sexual, I am the type of person that would be interested in a long term relationship with them as a person, not just a bed partner......

they may be transgender but its only a aspect of them, there is far more to them that I find interesting than whats between their legs

[void()]

Heck yeah, I'd go out with butterflies. Would enjoy it I'm sure. By the way, I'm the axe murder your momma never warned you about. :) I murder axes, hehe. Well now I'm curious, have to go look someone up.

[MarieDelta]

http://www.bisexual.com/forum/entry.php?23-Trans-Sexuality-A-Safe-Sex-Zine

Mostly I wanted to point you to this free e-zine

http://handbasketproductions.com/Trans%20Sex%20Ed%20%28ezine%29.pdf

[biguycancun]

I lived with a beautiful trans woman for 21 years. We had a rich and varied sex life and a challenging and engaging relationship. We were committed to each other and were monogamous, and yes, for me it was the best of both worlds although I confess that as the years rolled on I spent most of that time as the "bottom" in the pairing.

Shortly before she died (inoperable pancreatic cancer) and unbeknownst by me, she arranged a meeting with a woman that resulted in a rather exciting menage a trois. What I didn't know was that she had pre-arranged the entire thing to bring this woman into our lives to assist me in managing her last months of life and to care for me after her death. I am now in a heterosexual relationship with that woman. At times, life can deal interesting hands.

[void()]

biguy, that is a beautiful story about love. Appreciate you focusing on the positives of your life. I can read and understand your life has had ups and downs. I also read you staying positive and illustrating being positive for others. Thanks for sharing.

[NjbiGuy01]

biguycancun: That is truly touching and a very unique and special story. Honestly, transexuals or hermaphrodites hold a special fascination for me. The dream of a "woman" with both a vagina and penis is a hot one for me. I think I would consider a relationship (if I were not in a traditional marriage now) with someone who was fully passable. I could certainly love that person having breasts, a penis and perhaps anally as well. I am a functional male in M/F situations, but more a bottom in MM situations, so a functional penis would be important. Thanks for sharing. Maybe if I come to Cancun on vacation, I'll reach out and we can grab a beer.

[*pan*]

I lived with a beautiful trans woman for 21 years. We had a rich and varied sex life and a challenging and engaging relationship. We were committed to each other and were monogamous, and yes, for me it was the best of both worlds although I confess that as the years rolled on I spent most of that time as the "bottom" in the pairing.

Shortly before she died (inoperable pancreatic cancer) and unbeknownst by me, she arranged a meeting with a woman that resulted in a rather exciting menage a trois. What I didn't know was that she had pre-arranged the entire thing to bring this woman into our lives to assist me in managing her last months of life and to care for me after her death. I am now in a heterosexual relationship with that woman. At times, life can deal interesting hands.

that is a beautiful story about true love, thank you for sharing it.

[The Bisexual Virgin]

That is a beautiful story, and I am sorry for your lost.

[The Bisexual Virgin]

To the OP, if you are tried of looking at pussy all the time then, yes of course a Tranny would be your answer. And I imagine if I were a bisexual man, and I hate looking at pussies, but prefer a nice set of tits, and a big cock, A Tranny or Shemale would be my best bet. You cannot loose with them. You get to fuck them all day long without the worry of getting them pregnant. So in my eyes (if I was attracted to them, which I am not) it's a win win situation. So I hope you will find the Shemale of your dreams.

[*pan*]

as far as being the answer it might be for some, for me maybe never gave it a lot of thought, would my wife accept her i don't know never came up but worth discussing with her. hmm a triad with the wife and tranny very interesting concept because she is straight and jealous of other woman but not me being with men, we have talked about another bisexual or gay man, but this never came up. think i will have to persue the possibility with her and see where it goes. well looks like this thread has sent me on a mission lol.

[LastGent]

I feel like using a lot of capital letters in this reply, I really just can't believe this attitude keeps going on with bisexuals. Maybe just one question in capitals, to show I need the answer:
WHY IS IT, FOR PERSONS WHO DO NOT HAVE THE MEDICAL CONDITIONS OF TRANSSEX OR INTERSEX, THAT PERSONS WITH THESE CONDITIONS ARE AUTOMATICALLY ASSUMED TO BE, IN POPULAR TERMINOLOGY, BIGENDERS (PERSONS WHO ARE SIMULTANEOUSLY MALE AND FEMALE, AND IN THIS CASE, IN A PHYSICAL SENSE) WHEN THE BIGENDER STATE FOR PERSONS WITH THESE MEDICAL CONDITIONS IS EXCESSIVELY RARE.
The vast majority of bigenders do not have either a transsex or intersex condition. So, I really want an explanation. To put things into perspective, if a woman must have a vaginectomy because her cervical cancer got out of control, and she refuses to have vaginoplasty, does her new physical condition make her "The Best of Both" as so many members here have put it, meaning, that she is now physically bigender ( which is what you all are actually asking)? Or, how about a man who was forced to have a penectomy after gangrene set in after a tragic motorcycle accident?
Folks complain that I have said this too many times, but, apparently, it cannot be said enough: Having a deformity of the sex organs does not nullify the biological sex that a person is, whether that is man, woman, onu, or manauwai (my work in progressing theoretical Proto-Indo-European terms for six additional sexes is going well), nor does it make their biological sex designation a free for all, up for grabs kind of thing for the public. If a person says he/she/id is not a manauwai, then they are not, and you must either accept reality or bug off and sexually oppress someone else.

[*pan*]

I feel like using a lot of capital letters in this reply, I really just can't believe this attitude keeps going on with bisexuals. Maybe just one question in capitals, to show I need the answer:
WHY IS IT, FOR PERSONS WHO DO NOT HAVE THE MEDICAL CONDITIONS OF TRANSSEX OR INTERSEX, THAT PERSONS WITH THESE CONDITIONS ARE AUTOMATICALLY ASSUMED TO BE, IN POPULAR TERMINOLOGY, BIGENDERS (PERSONS WHO ARE SIMULTANEOUSLY MALE AND FEMALE, AND IN THIS CASE, IN A PHYSICAL SENSE) WHEN THE BIGENDER STATE FOR PERSONS WITH THESE MEDICAL CONDITIONS IS EXCESSIVELY RARE.
The vast majority of bigenders do not have either a transsex or intersex condition. So, I really want an explanation. To put things into perspective, if a woman must have a vaginectomy because her cervical cancer got out of control, and she refuses to have vaginoplasty, does her new physical condition make her "The Best of Both" as so many members here have put it, meaning, that she is now physically bigender ( which is what you all are actually asking)? Or, how about a man who was forced to have a penectomy after gangrene set in after a tragic motorcycle accident?
Folks complain that I have said this too many times, but, apparently, it cannot be said enough: Having a deformity of the sex organs does not nullify the biological sex that a person is, whether that is man, woman, onu, or manauwai (my work in progressing theoretical Proto-Indo-European terms for six additional sexes is going well), nor does it make their biological sex designation a free for all, up for grabs kind of thing for the public. If a person says he/she/id is not a manauwai, then they are not, and you must either accept reality or bug off and sexually oppress someone else.

i don't understand the reason for the complexity of your reply to this thread, i thought it was quite simple question towards dating a transexual, and it being the answer to some people's desire for both sexes. dating being the attraction with agreement of both parties, of course we are all human and have feelings and no one in this thread is suggesting other wise. to me it dose not matter whether or not a person is by natural, accident, surgery, choice, ect.. if i am attracted to them it is because i find a quality in them i desire to be closer to.

[LastGent]

"Desire for both sexes": solution to this is for bisexuals to get off their butts and arrange a sex orgy with men and women invited-OR, find a bigender who happens to be in 'both' phase at the moment. I also protest referring to folk by their medical problems; 'transsexual' needs to become obsolete-OR, for the sake of equality, call all folk by their medical/physical conditions. For women this could be vaginual/post-menopausual/big-boobual/ovarian-cancerual. For men, we could have: penisual/two-inch-dickual/prostate-cancerual/viagraual. Even out the playing field.
On a general note, I think we need to do less quoting, takes up space. Just point out something I said, don't repost the whole thing.
On a personal note, I shall add a new screening process for potential partners: anyone who fantasizes/wants sex with 'tranny's, 'shemales', 'hermaphrodites', or 'the best of both' shall be excised from my sex pool. Wanting to have sex with particularly shaped sex organs, fetishizing them almost, is innately evil to me, I shall not say otherwise. So *pan*, and everyone else, I'm going to remain the biological sex avenger, because I mind.

[*pan*]

i did point out what you said and it was your whole post and that's why i reposted it lol

[transchk]

*pan* and LastGent, have you read the e-zine that Marie posted in #8. It might shed some light on this subject for you.

Trans* girls are usually NOT "the best of both worlds", we are usually the "worst of both words". The same hormones that make the boobs grow, make the other stuff harder to handle. One must block the male hormones to allow the female hormones to work. Both sets of hormones can't work at once. I have said it before and I will say it again, most trans girls are not attacked because her partner found out she was trans, but because the partner's friends found out. What most guys on this thread are saying is " I want to play with cock, but I don't want my friends to know, so I have to find a girl with a cock." But you don't want her because she is a girl, you want her for her cock. If you want cock, go find a guy, lots more of those out there. And they know you just want them for their cock, you won't have to lie.

I know there are some out there in loving relationships with trans women, biguycancun, you seem to be one. Marie's partner, RockGardener seems to be another.

[biguycancun]

... I know there are some out there in loving relationships with trans women, biguycancun, you seem to be one. Marie's partner, RockGardener seems to be another.
I was in a loving relationship until she died last summer, after over 21 years together. And while sex was a major component of the relationship it was not the driving component. We were friends, albeit briefly, before we became lovers, and remained friends for her entire life. It was not about cock, neither hers nor mine. It was about love, and that may have been the key difference.

[*pan*]

it would seem to me that it would take a special person in love to deal with the complications, as said here and maybe too much for the masses, from what i see a lot only want the sex without the caring so would not want to deal with the problems associated with a trans, this makes them in the general public eye too much trouble, so no they would not be the best of both worlds to most people. but i would not rule them out if i was attracted. i tend to follow my heart and what ever comes of it, take the good with the bad. i fall in love with the person not their looks or gender. and i have only fell in love with 3 people in my life. and am still with one of them, but if they were male, female, trans or alien, it would not matter. i do not hide my feelings. i am not so shallow as to discard a human because of their race, or gender. too many see tranny's as items to use and discard when done or taboo all together, i see them as people no different from you or i. each one different in their own way each unique just as everyone else. maybe i am messed up in the head, i don't know but this is how i see people, without labels, i do not judge and value everyone at face value and not because of race, religion or gender or what ever.i do not struggle with my feelings, i only struggle with putting them in words. i think this would be a better world without labels, then people would then maybe people would value others for who they are and not what they are. as far as the best of both worlds as the title says, well i believe it would depend on the individuals involved and no one else, and none of their business. as far as lastgent's list of potential sex partners well he can exclude me, although i never fantasize about being with a trans i would not rule it out if my heart led me in that direction or i met one that i was attracted to and fell in love with. this is just me.

[tenni]

The issue is about "going out" with a transexual meeting criteria to make it the answer.
People who are responding may be responding to different endings to the question.

Some are discussing love and emotional connection which is not necessarily the question.
Some are discussing a sexual attraction /physical need level and that is the end of the question for them. There is no desire for an emotional connection.

I don't think that the second end to the question is of less value than an emotional connection. I suspect others will see an emotional connection as a higher or better value question. It really depends upon what you want or need. The same wants/needs exist as to whether you should go out with a csi man or a csi woman. Why not both to meet your needs? (oh no that just wouldn't be morally correct...may be the answer for some. I must pick one...whether a cismale, cisfemale or transperson) Does a belief in monogamy block some people's option/perspective?

Some discuss a dislike for labels and this has been stated several times on this site. That is more than not an unlikely idealistic perspective but we may dream.

[The Bisexual Virgin]

*pan* and LastGent, have you read the e-zine that Marie posted in #8. It might shed some light on this subject for you.

Trans* girls are usually NOT "the best of both worlds", we are usually the "worst of both words". The same hormones that make the boobs grow, make the other stuff harder to handle. One must block the male hormones to allow the female hormones to work. Both sets of hormones can't work at once. I have said it before and I will say it again, most trans girls are not attacked because her partner found out she was trans, but because the partner's friends found out. What most guys on this thread are saying is " I want to play with cock, but I don't want my friends to know, so I have to find a girl with a cock." But you don't want her because she is a girl, you want her for her cock. If you want cock, go find a guy, lots more of those out there. And they know you just want them for their cock, you won't have to lie.

I know there are some out there in loving relationships with trans women, biguycancun, you seem to be one. Marie's partner, RockGardener seems to be another.

Wow Transchik, that's very insightful and a different viewpoint on why shemales or transsexuals get attack. Whenever a case of a Transgenered woman getting attack I always thought she was being deceitful, and lie about who or what she/he they were originally. Although I am not taking sides here, I can understand why a man would get pissed when he founds the woman he was banging originally a he. But then again these men will always think with the head between their legs, instead of the head between their ears

[MarieDelta]

Wow Transchik, that's very insightful and a different viewpoint on why shemales or transsexuals get attack. Whenever a case of a Transgenered woman getting attack I always thought she was being deceitful, and lie about who or what she/he they were originally. Although I am not taking sides here, I can understand why a man would get pissed when he founds the woman he was banging originally a he. But then again these men will always think with the head between their legs, instead of the head between their ears

Most cases of violence ending with a trans woman's death the subject knew all along that the woman was trans. It wasn't untill his friends discover that she is trans that the person becomes violent. Both Gwen Araujo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Gwen_Araujo) and Angie Zapata (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angie_Zapata)'s killers knew well before they had sex with them.

[LastGent]

Continuing in transchk's vein, some women with a transsex condition have no interest in sex, do to estrogen, and so don't bother having vaginoplasty and clitoriplasty, just labioplasty so they can prevent being beaten to death at a nude beach, or that is the procedure recommended by a doctor to cure the condition.
So many assumptions are assumed by persons starting a tranny/shemale thread that I am bewildered. Having studied safe sex and gone to a lecture on it-asking a person if they like sex, if they like being touched in certain ways, what is physically possible-that is standard procedure for me. Do the rest of you trip and pop a limb into an orifice and hope it works out or something?
Yes, transchk, I have read that blog post, found it too basic to recommend to anyone. As with you, the "best of both worlds" assumption is bugging me-it's like they automatically assume (the a-word again) that this medical condition makes someone equally male and female, and that this person is a magical sexual fairy that will gratify desires to have a multi-sex sex orgy without the complex planning. OF COURSE, such an attitude ignores the fact that each person with this condition is shaped differently-as if this condition turns one into a clothes pin person or a meeple.
There are no shortcuts with sex play, folks, you still got to ask and have serious discussions.

[Realist]

You asked...."and i wonder how many would have anyting to do with a transsexual." (?)

Personally, I have been mostly interested in relationships. If I met a potential mate, of any sexual persuasion, and developed trust, rapport, interests, and desire...etc, etc...... I would hope we could become lovers.

No other issue needs to be addressed.