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Long Duck Dong
Apr 22, 2012, 12:53 AM
a friend sent me a copy of a article about Mr gay world ( a nzer that won the 2012 title ) and in it, he makes a statement about taking on the NZ law that stops same sex couples from adopting children.... and refers to the fact that a single gay person can adopt, but not same sex couples ( gay / les and bisexual people )

its something that has been a bone of contention in NZ amongst the LGBT community ever since the laws were changed to give LGBT people the right of marriage ( civil union ) and other laws that recognized their union for tax and benefit purposes ( strange that )... but we still have outdated laws from the 1950s that stop people from adopting..... and its interesting to see that the NZ government is sidestepping the issue like its a pile of dog shit on the pavement.....

I have seen gay / les and bi same sex couples in relationships raising kids and I will be honest that there are minor issues, things like the talking to the kids about how other groups in the LGBT community and outside of it, are against us and will not accept us, do not like us, think we are people in denial of our sexuality etc..... but outside of that, there are still no true signs of the children growing up and entertaining ideas that the rest of the world hate us, regardless of how much many of them support and accept us..... and yes there is still the dark ages idea that if same sex couples raise children, that they will turn into same sex lovers themselves....... that is a theory that never fails to amuse me.... how the fuck do they explain the LGBT coming from heterosexual couples..... oh thats right, we are * faulty goods *....... snorts.......

I have always been under the impression that its not sexuality that makes a good parent, nor is it the size of the wallet.... its the person themselves, how much are they comfortable with their ability to love, care for and nuture somebody that needs a family.... I would make a lousy parent, and I will openly admit it... but its not cos of my sexuality or the fact that I am eccentric... its more to do with the fact I have genetic traits in my body that are a blessing and a curse, and while I can handle them, I have no interest in passing them on ......

I am sorry, NZ, but the law needs to be changed.... there are fantastic ( and not so fantastic ) LGBT people that can make great parents and there are children that need somebody, anybody to love them hold them and tell them that they matter..... and its time that people realise that same sex attraction is not contagious and there is no vaccine for it either..... besides its a blessing not a curse......

in the year 2012, its saddening to see that a country that is on the leading edge of human rights and equal treatment for all.... is failing in one of the most important aspects of human rights and equal treatment...... and that is the right to have a family that loves them and to be treated like a child with a loving family......

so yeah, Mr gay world, has my support, and the support of many others, as we continue to battle for the rights of same sex couples to be allowed to be parents and so children can have a loving, supportive house and home with a family...... and while I am remaining positive about the fight, I have the gut feeling that its still a good few years off before society has fully shifted to a more accepting and understanding society and the powers that be, reflect the same understanding and sign on the dotted line to acknowledge the rights of same sex couples equally.......

maybe things are different in other parts of the world, maybe there are different rules and guidelines..... but it is time that people look beyond their own issues with the LGBT / same sex couples and think of the children.... and the families and parents that would open their arms, homes and hearts.....

tenni
Apr 22, 2012, 1:36 AM
Yes, in Canada, same sex married couples (not "gay couples" label) have all the same rights that cross gender couples have to adopt, etc. This is based on our Charter of Rights and Freedoms section 15 regarding discrimination. Canada has the most advanced rights for GLBT people in all the Americas.

DuckiesDarling
Apr 22, 2012, 7:38 AM
It varies in the US from state to state. Some actually have it that anyone can adopt regardless of sexuality as long as they aren't in a cohabiting relationship without marriage. I remember one court case where a gay couple were foster parents and they wanted to adopt the kids they had come to love and were loved by, the state ruled in their favor. Hopefully soon all across the US the kids who need loving homes will get them, regardless of the sexuality of the adoptive parents.

darkeyes
Apr 22, 2012, 10:08 AM
In Scotland England and Wales we have the right to adopt... I am unable to comment on Northern Ireland but believe they allow it also. I have adopted my partners elder daughter, and, if anything happened to the father of the younger I would gladly adopt the younger.. but her father plays a huge and important part in her life and both he and she treasure their time together.. neither Kate or I would do anything to undermine that relationship.