Lumbersexuals and beards on men today

[tenni]

Well, apparently theorists are messing around explaining masculinity and social trends.

This article attempts to explain why young men are wearing beards and plaid. I have not seen much of the plaid influence but a lot of guys in their 20's are wearing beards today..even buying special oils to groom them.

Yep, metrosexuals are gone and Lumbersexuals supposedly influenced by the gay culture are here.

Is this BS or ?

Check it out?

http://mic.com/articles/107794/what-the-lumbersexual-trend-really-says-about-men-in-society-today

Officially coined only a few months ago by blogs like Gear Junkie (http://gearjunkie.com/the-rise-of-the-lumbersexual), America's latest incarnation of masculinity, the lumbersexual, is fundamentally a bearded hipster with a penchant for plaid, tattoos and cold brew — both coffee and beer. Quickly sensationalized by countless media sites, from Gawker (http://gawker.com/are-you-a-lumbersexual-1657844454) and BuzzFeed (http://www.buzzfeed.com/mrloganrhoades/introducing-the-hot-new-trend-among-men-lumbersexual#.wllEE415gB) to Cosmo (http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/news/a32975/are-you-dating-a-lumbersexual/) and Time (http://time.com/3603216/confessions-of-a-lumbersexual/), the lumbersexual actually says a lot about the state of masculinity in the 21st century.
In fact, one might just wonder if this new cultural identity signifies a crisis in masculinity (http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/12/lumbersexuality-and-its-discontents/383563/?single_page=true). This emergent male archetype, with its echoes of a rugged albeit bygone era, parodies aspects of heterosexual masculinity in extreme (http://instagram.com/lumbersexual) and even ridiculous (http://mic.com/articles/106170/check-out-this-bizarre-new-male-fashion-trend-for-the-holidays) ways, suggesting that the most celebrated manly characteristics are struggling to find a place in the 21st century.

[JaredT77]

I prefer REAL men. Not feminine sissies. Not Justin Bieber looking twinks, but the real manly, hairy, lumberjack men. Unless the man is involved with sports, then that man should not be shaving his legs. Now that I'm out of the military, I enjoy just letting my beard grow every now and then and going a few days before shaving.

In my opinion, lumbersexual men are sexy.

[pole_smoker]

Well, apparently theorists are messing around explaining masculinity and social trends.

This article attempts to explain why young men are wearing beards and plaid. I have not seen much of the plaid influence but a lot of guys in their 20's are wearing beards today..even buying special oils to groom them.

Yep, metrosexuals are gone and Lumbersexuals supposedly influenced by the gay culture are here.

Is this BS or ?

Check it out?

http://mic.com/articles/107794/what-the-lumbersexual-trend-really-says-about-men-in-society-today

Officially coined only a few months ago by blogs like Gear Junkie (http://gearjunkie.com/the-rise-of-the-lumbersexual), America's latest incarnation of masculinity, the lumbersexual, is fundamentally a bearded hipster with a penchant for plaid, tattoos and cold brew — both coffee and beer. Quickly sensationalized by countless media sites, from Gawker (http://gawker.com/are-you-a-lumbersexual-1657844454) and BuzzFeed (http://www.buzzfeed.com/mrloganrhoades/introducing-the-hot-new-trend-among-men-lumbersexual#.wllEE415gB) to Cosmo (http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/news/a32975/are-you-dating-a-lumbersexual/) and Time (http://time.com/3603216/confessions-of-a-lumbersexual/), the lumbersexual actually says a lot about the state of masculinity in the 21st century.
In fact, one might just wonder if this new cultural identity signifies a crisis in masculinity (http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/12/lumbersexuality-and-its-discontents/383563/?single_page=true). This emergent male archetype, with its echoes of a rugged albeit bygone era, parodies aspects of heterosexual masculinity in extreme (http://instagram.com/lumbersexual) and even ridiculous (http://mic.com/articles/106170/check-out-this-bizarre-new-male-fashion-trend-for-the-holidays) ways, suggesting that the most celebrated manly characteristics are struggling to find a place in the 21st century.
More silly theory.

What "gay culture"? There's no such thing.

Gay men who are supposedly "masculine" are usually anything but this, and they just imitate heterosexual men.

The author of that fluff/opinion piece is a woman, she's not a man, and has no idea what it's like to really be a man; but I guess it's her job to write about silly fashion trends.

I liked these comments on the link:

For god's sake...they're hipsters. Give it three months and they'll embrace some new trend. Remember that fashion is something so ugly or stupid that it has to change every six months.BTW, these epic bearded, flannel-wearing nimrods couldn't cut bread with an axe, let alone chop wood without losing a toe.

How is metrosexual a precursor when men have grown beards since their existence?

Seriously, ya'll need to get out of the big city for a few. I live in New York now. But seriously, this male style has been around for decades upon decades. Try going to the midwest, Alaska, parts of Canada, and tell them that "it's a new fashion trend" or even better, "Stolen from gay culture." They will laugh in your face.

[tenni]

Actually, it is a new trend for hetero young men in their 20's & 30's in Canada. Some men in Canada would annually grow a beard for winter and shave it off in spring. There is a large number of young men wearing beards...not seeing a lot of plaid but ... a large number of young men are wearing beards all seasons now. I'd say nearly a majority of guys in their 20's & 30's have full beards.

[JaredT77]

Actually, it is a new trend for hetero young men in their 20's & 30's in Canada. Some men in Canada would annually grow a beard for winter and shave it off in spring. There is a large number of young men wearing beards...not seeing a lot of plaid but ... a large number of young men are wearing beards all seasons now. I'd say nearly a majority of guys in their 20's & 30's have full beards.

Ummm it's been going around. A lot of athletes grow beards long and their hair long too. Actually got a famous tv reality show on A&E channel called Duck Dynasty. I think they wear plaid too sometimes.

Honestly, who cares?

[BiFiHotspot]

I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay

[JaredT77]

I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay

I would say that you are more than ok. Nice cock!

[BiFiHotspot]

I would say that you are more than ok. Nice cock!

Thanks.Actually more of a Pirate than a lumberjack though I must Confess.

[JaredT77]

Thanks.Actually more of a Pirate than a lumberjack though I must Confess.

You're welcome. If a man grows a beard then he grows a beard. Older men grow beards too. I believe they are classified as "bears" which I'm attracted too. But it's not just "gay culture" for a man to grow their beards out. Straight men do too. Not just white men but black men too.

[darkeyes]

...face hair... aaaaakkk:eek2:.. dead mouses n rats n things unda nose... bush wiv lotsa squirrels n badgers n stuff on chin... yugh... all jaggie n scratchie n horrible:yikes2:.... no ta.....

[Melody Dean]

Hipsters growing beards and wearing flannel is not a news flash. Surely that's the the author is observing, and it has so little to do with "gay culture."

But, I still had to give my 2¢ on beards. While a guy with a well trimmed beard or a little stubble looks handsome, kissing can be pokey and painful (and I absolutely love kissing!). But, I kissed one man with a beard who was a fantastic kisser and got no beard burn at all that time, didn't even notice the beard, so I'm okay with it in rare instances. (He has super soft hair too, so maybe his beard was softer than the usual.) Untrimmed beards just look sloppy bordering on homeless.

[Melody Dean]

...face hair... aaaaakkk:eek2:.. dead mouses n rats n things unda nose... bush wiv lotsa squirrels n badgers n stuff on chin... yugh... all jaggie n scratchie n horrible:yikes2:.... no ta.....

And that's why it's more fun to kiss women!

[tenni]

Hipsters growing beards and wearing flannel is not a news flash. Surely that's the the author is observing, and it has so little to do with "gay culture."

But, I still had to give my 2¢ on beards. While a guy with a well trimmed beard or a little stubble looks handsome, kissing can be pokey and painful (and I absolutely love kissing!). But, I kissed one man with a beard who was a fantastic kisser and got no beard burn at all that time, didn't even notice the beard, so I'm okay with it in rare instances. (He has super soft hair too, so maybe his beard was softer than the usual.) Untrimmed beards just look sloppy bordering on homeless.

The soft beard issue is interesting. I wonder if this concept of oiling a beard makes it soft and kissable?
Melody How long have guys been wearing full beards in Indiana been a dominant feature? Ten years ? The numbers of beard wearers has significantly increased here as I wrote.

[tenni]

The issue of the term "gay culture" and those who deny that there is a gay culture.

The article refers to and uses language that maybe the unfamiliar/unaware/uneducated as far as culture is concerned may be failing to comprehend.
The use of words such as "signifier" "appropriation" are common when it comes to the arts and culture of a society. They are "art speak" terms. These terms are similar to the gay culture's use of the term "bears" and "otters" use of body hair as a same sex attraction feature. The word "culture" is a very broad and inclusive word in some circles these days. I'm finding that almost anything may be placed under the word "culture".

"Gay appropriation: One is that heterosexual men have gone out of their way to appropriate gay cultural signifiers of masculinity, as Tim Teeman asserts in his Daily Beast piece, "How [the] Straight World Stole 'Gay.' (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/11/12/how-straight-world-stole-gay-the-last-gasp-of-the-lumbersexual.html)" "The lumbersexual is just straight culture's latest belated attempt to theatricalize masculinity, decades after gays got there first," Teeman writes. Mark Simpson, in a piece published today at Out, (http://www.out.com/entertainment/2015/01/06/objectify-yourself-why-straight-young-men-crave-gay-adulation) goes so far as to imply that, with the increased popularity of all things gay, straight men "crave gay adulation." Mimicry is, as the adage goes, the sincerest form of flattery. This might also explain the moniker. Otherwise a combination of lumberjack and hipster, "lumbster," seems like it would have been a more fitting term.

What is also curious is the near snobbery that some use to attack and demean anything connected to intelligence and academia. This seems to be strong in the US culture but not exclusive to the US culture as an attack on intelligence and scientific research etc. It seems almost a mantra of ignorance "pride" is better than intelligence. This is being done presently by the Canadian government as well. Scientific research that does not support the government's agenda is being controlled and silenced often with such attacks and accusations of being "academic" (therefore irrelevant). Those who are snobby with their demeaning of intelligence and science are really just pawns of government control imo.

[Melody Dean]

The soft beard issue is interesting. I wonder if this concept of oiling a beard makes it soft and kissable?
Melody How long have guys been wearing full beards in Indiana been a dominant feature? Ten years ? The numbers of beard wearers has significantly increased here as I wrote.

I'm pretty sure that this friend does very little beard maintenance. I'd be surprised if he did anything other than trim it. Maybe just his kissing style or that he has fuller lips keeps the beard out of the way. But I do wonder if oiling a beard softens it and prevents beard burn. If I liked beards more, I'd do more research...

Hm... you may be right there. When I was in high school in the 90's, I don't remember many guys having beards or other facial hair. Now, beards are everywhere. If I had to put a time frame on it... yeah, ten years ago seems about right. About the time when hipsters were becoming a "thing."

[darkeyes]

The soft beard issue is interesting. I wonder if this concept of oiling a beard makes it soft and kissable?
Melody How long have guys been wearing full beards in Indiana been a dominant feature? Ten years ? The numbers of beard wearers has significantly increased here as I wrote.
Dusnt matter, tenni, wot a man dus wiv his beard.. or even mouse unda nose, it always rendered him (2 me) unkissable and unfanciable as long as he had hair on face...long short, tidy, scruffy.. unkissable... will rephrase that a bit.. unsnoggable... have plenty men friends wiv face hair and yes I do kiss quite a few of them wen we meet or say tara... but that is not snogging... no matter how soft face hair is, it can nev be soft as skin... me x hubbie sometimes used 2 b dragged kicking and steaming in2 bathroom and made 2 shave ver close b4 nookie until he accepted the rules wich made life much easier for both of us.... often but not always in morning... but in morning snogging or oral (him on her) wer not options unless the hair wos gone from his luffly lickle chops.... I kno I wos pain in arse but he knew the rules.... and how much I h8ed it.. wy he put up wiv me for so long I s'pose makes even me wonder:eek2:...

I have 2 admit 2 being a lickle less strict wen it came to bf's b4 him but the more guys I had sex wiv the less I enjoyed their face hair.. quite a few cut up rough wen they began to have the law laid down but most (not all) accepted my lickle whim in gud grace... after all.. for most guys the need for sex is a lickle more powerful than the need to not shave... serpently those who don't have a beard or dead mouse and who normally shave every day...

[pole_smoker]

The issue of the term "gay culture" and those who deny that there is a gay culture.

The article refers to and uses language that maybe the unfamiliar/unaware/uneducated as far as culture is concerned may be failing to comprehend.
The use of words such as "signifier" "appropriation" are common when it comes to the arts and culture of a society. They are "art speak" terms. These terms are similar to the gay culture's use of the term "bears" and "otters" use of body hair as a same sex attraction feature. The word "culture" is a very broad and inclusive word in some circles these days. I'm finding that almost anything may be placed under the word "culture".

"Gay appropriation: One is that heterosexual men have gone out of their way to appropriate gay cultural signifiers of masculinity, as Tim Teeman asserts in his Daily Beast piece, "How [the] Straight World Stole 'Gay.' (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/11/12/how-straight-world-stole-gay-the-last-gasp-of-the-lumbersexual.html)" "The lumbersexual is just straight culture's latest belated attempt to theatricalize masculinity, decades after gays got there first," Teeman writes. Mark Simpson, in a piece published today at Out, (http://www.out.com/entertainment/2015/01/06/objectify-yourself-why-straight-young-men-crave-gay-adulation) goes so far as to imply that, with the increased popularity of all things gay, straight men "crave gay adulation." Mimicry is, as the adage goes, the sincerest form of flattery. This might also explain the moniker. Otherwise a combination of lumberjack and hipster, "lumbster," seems like it would have been a more fitting term.

What is also curious is the near snobbery that some use to attack and demean anything connected to intelligence and academia. This seems to be strong in the US culture but not exclusive to the US culture as an attack on intelligence and scientific research etc. It seems almost a mantra of ignorance "pride" is better than intelligence. This is being done presently by the Canadian government as well. Scientific research that does not support the government's agenda is being controlled and silenced often with such attacks and accusations of being "academic" (therefore irrelevant). Those who are snobby with their demeaning of intelligence and science are really just pawns of government control imo.
Tenni it's just a stupid fashion trend used by urban hipsters who have never even been camping, worked a day in their life, and who are clueless about how to chop wood and build a fire.

The silly fashion has nothing to do with gay men at all, and gay men who dress that way and pretend to be "masculine" borrowed this from hetero guys who have been this way for centuries.

The stuff you're linking is not intelligent; but it's very silly and perfect for the ivory tower of academia where they don't spend any time in the real world and instead live in a world of theory.

This is an excellent comment on the article and this silly flavor of the month hipster fashion trend:

Only a gay male that has never been outside of a large city full of people judging everyone else for what they look like would claim the gay community coined wearing jeans, boots and a flannel. It's just ignorant and quite self-centered.

What confuses me is that a gay male would even try to support this stupid claim when gay men are usually always fighting to be treated equally. Well you aren't going to get treated equally when you come off as an elitist asshole claiming folks of your particular sexual preference invented a style that isn't even really a style.

In this case, it is the exact opposite, big city folk and gay "bears" used a pre-existing style, not the other way around.

[JaredT77]

Tenni it's just a stupid fashion trend used by urban hipsters who have never even been camping, worked a day in their life, and who are clueless about how to chop wood and build a fire.

The silly fashion has nothing to do with gay men at all, and gay men who dress that way and pretend to be "masculine" borrowed this from hetero guys who have been this way for centuries.

The stuff you're linking is not intelligent; but it's very silly and perfect for the ivory tower of academia where they don't spend any time in the real world and instead live in a world of theory.

This is an excellent comment on the article and this silly flavor of the month hipster fashion trend:
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Does anybody really care about a stupid fashion trend? I don't. I live my life the way I want to live it. You are definitely right pole_smoker, this is a silly and unintelligent topic.

[bityme]

The cost of a razor blade is now over $5.00 Is it really so odd that young men who can only find part-time or minimum wage jobs are growing beards?

[jem_is_bi]

Does anybody really care about a stupid fashion trend? I don't. I live my life the way I want to live it. You are definitely right pole_smoker, this is a silly and unintelligent topic. Not silly to me. I need to maintain a very professional fashion in my dress for work. I need to be very observant of fashion of others as well as many other factors for my work. Not a stupid, unintelligent topic. We use fashion to say a lot that is very important without using words

[pole_smoker]

Not silly to me. I need to maintain a very professional fashion in my dress for work. I need to be very observant of fashion of others as well as many other factors for my work. Not a stupid, unintelligent topic. We use fashion to say a lot that is very important without using words
What do you do for work, or who do you work for?

[pole_smoker]

The cost of a razor blade is now over $5.00 Is it really so odd that young men who can only find part-time or minimum wage jobs are growing beards?
They're not that expensive. My partner and I have had some sort of facial hair for decades long before we ever met each other and that's because we both hate to shave our faces, and look better with facial hair than without it.

When I do use a razor or shave my neck I just use the cheap single blade disposable razors.

[tenni]

Generally, I think that this "trend"? seems a bit too much but it seems some younger guys might do it as a lark. These are the more "conservative beards"......I'm not sure but maybe Gear might give it a whirl...lol ;) (kid'n)

Check out the wilder beards on the link.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/augustafalletta/23-men-who-are-redefining-what-makes-beards-beautiful?bftw&bffb&utm_term=4ldqphh#.rhvbYLwGw

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