How much of your excitement is the element of bi and gay sex is supposedly "Wrong?"

[Kyguy2022]

I'm glad it's becoming more accepted, but I certainly grew up during a different time in the 80s and even 90s. I hadn't realized my desire at the time and for awhile I thought it was a phase. Anyway, part of the attraction is still the element of it's not supposedly common. I'm not a rebel or anything, but this is all a part of my journey I think. Anyone else feel like this?

[cornholejoe]

dont see nothing wrong about it its sex

[csreef]

Oh My God, 20 years ago, when I was exploring my newfound sexuality, one afternoon I was getting a Mind-bending good BJ from a guy, and I thought, if my uptight Conservative Protestent family could see me now! Woo! :rolleyes:

[Long Duck Dong]

To be honest.... people that enjoy gay and bi sex will often follow the pattern of there is nothing wrong with it, just the people that oppose it......a bit like people will be fine with their own political leanings but have a problem with the way that others may lean political, so start a fight over it.....

Sometimes having sex has been heightened by the idea of somebody walking in and being shocked at what is going on, and the idea that we keep fucking just to really upset the apple cart.......or the idea that they are shocked, but also aroused and end up joining in and finding that its sex, its fun, its enjoyable and the world did not end.......and yeah sometimes the thrill of random spontaneous sex in public places can also be a turn on ( glares at my partner who is giggling on the couch )..

But I generally have the stance if people think that gay / bi sex is wrong, thats fine...its not like we were offering them a place in the bed anyway.........

[darkeyes]

But I generally have the stance if people think that gay / bi sex is wrong, thats fine...its not like we were offering them a place in the bed anyway.........
I can agree wivya mostly, duckie.. Not too sure that folk having the view that gay/bi sex is wrong is fine... after all so many would have gay/bi guys in the clink or castrated or strung up... women too in many cases, though from what I see women who like women are fair game for rape on a basis that all they need is a good seeing to convert them or bring them back to the light so many guys are quite happy for them to be out and about as potential prey. No, I don't think all men are that way inclined but 2 many are. More than I like and dread to think. For such men we have no rights.

[licyou69]

Being wrong has nothing to do with my excitement. I'm into giving pleasure, but not so much in receiving it. So, my thrill comes from the act of getting on my knees to pleasure a man in an act of submission. The excitement is because it's different, not because it's wrong.

[Warmnsalty]

When I first started exploring my bi side, the "wrong" part was a big part of the turn on. Over the years that has wained as I find more and more bi guys like myself. That, along with the shift in vanilla society and the taboo part isn't part of my "fantasy". Now my taboo thoughts center around wearing stockings and heels and wanted to suck or get fucked. The one big taboo that still gets me off is knowing the guy I'm sucking is str8 married/gf and only using my mouth for his release. LOVE knowing the cock and cum I'm getting normally go into a wife or gf.

[KDaddy23]

I liked being a "rebel" in the early days. "Don't ever have sex with another boy" meant "Go have sex with another boy unless you're a chicken." Even now, there's a thrill I feel when I go down on a guy or he's down on me because it's "just sex" but sex in a way that tends to make some folks want to throw up and, sadly, show how ignorant they are about the way things can really work. We all know what the rules say about this. We throw them away because something is only and really wrong when it's proven, beyond any doubt or question, to be wrong... and that hasn't happened. Still, our morality is what it is and I know a lot of guys who've said that they feel... rebellious, like a non-conformist, or that the taboo itself is what makes this so attractive and pleasurable.

Society can't have it both ways. It cannot say that sex is good, healthy, and normal and then condemn me and some guy for deciding that blowing each other would be nice right about now. So if I've been doing something wrong all of this time, fine; I like thumbing my nose at the belief that it's wrong.

[park ave]

I wouldn't call the added excitement that I find in bi or gay sex 'wrong' so much as perhaps 'taboo.' But I think the taboo element definitely adds spice.

The first time I was with an adult man the taboo nature of what I was doing was exciting in itself, such as my taking his cock out of his pants (and a man I had just met, for some added taboo), holding his cock and feeling the weight and the warmth of it, and listening to the sharp intake of his breath as I started to stroke it, feeling the fine skin of his cock as I moved it up and down his hardening shaft (a much different and sexier tactile sensation than stroking my own cock, doing which of course was itself somewhat taboo). These were things I knew I 'shouldn't' be doing, which added to the sexual excitement of actually doing them. Even being able to look closely at a man's cock and explore it was taboo, as was the knowledge that I could take out his balls and feel them and play with them if I wish. Those realizations alone were a real turn on. And of course knowing as I did them that the real taboo thing was to come; kissing and licking this man's cock with my lips and mouth and then sucking him off as my girlfriends had done to me was perhaps the most exciting taboo element.

It seems funny that this taboo feeling faded over time with this man, and it became very natural (and fun!) for me to take out his cock and play with it when he picked me up for one of our 'dates'. Although one taboo feeling I distinctly remember was when I was between his naked thighs (I was naked as well), and he was lying back and I was cupping his balls and stroking his thick cock between sucking and licking it, and the thought occurred to me that he had children older than I was (I was 17 or 18 at the time), but I had done things to him that his children would never do, like lying naked with him, playing with his nipples and kissing and sucking them, or licking the delicate flesh alongside his balls on his inner thighs (as I was doing at that moment). And not to mention sucking his cock and him cumming in my mouth. The taboo thought of this secret from his family was very exciting.

The other memorable 'taboo' experience with him that stands out for me was the night he brought his wife's babydoll for me to wear while I sucked him off. It was a strange and intimate and certainly a taboo experience for us both that he had included this, especially given she didn't know we had it. When I smelled her fragrance on it, I felt as if I were peeking into her underwear drawer. And feeling the inside of it where her (rather large) breasts had been seemed terribly intimate and sexy. But putting it on was completely taboo, and I wasn't sure how I felt about that (despite being really turned on by the thought of wearing it), yet I put it on anyway. I think the 'forbidden' nature of what we were doing was exciting for both of us, as he had a quite the orgasm that night, one we often talked about in the future (though we never repeated the babydoll thing). Upon reflection in later years, my only 'taboo' regret of that night is that I didn't make him call me by his wife's name. That would have been wild.

So, yes, I think an element of taboo adds to the excitement of bi and gay sex for me. But I also think it also adds to the excitement of straight sex as well.

[KDaddy23]

Yes! In the back of your mind, you know that you have no business with a guy's dick in your hand, let alone preparing to put it in your mouth. It makes it "scary" and exciting because you know you're getting ready to do something you were told not to do and, yep, it can make doing it feel better. In my younger days, the taboo/forbidden nature of it was what made all of us do it - it felt stupidly good to be so bad!

[Mmpmm]

No question the taboo of it turns me on.

[tongueteaser]

Being wrong has nothing to do with my excitement. I'm into giving pleasure, but not so much in receiving it. So, my thrill comes from the act of getting on my knees to pleasure a man in an act of submission. The excitement is because it's different, not because it's wrong.

I am right along with you and feel the same. First of all many people pay alot of money for entertainment and fun. It dont cost anything to give someone pleasure with my wanting and natural ability and talent. I also am more of a pleaser and like to receive a little when I am all done pleasing maybe. I just feel so submissive and excited and aroused down there sucking on a sensitive head and cock. Working my tongue and such to give the best pleasure just because I can and want to. My reward is spurting cum and throbbing cock. I will remove every last drop I can and thank them.

[marine20]

i think because two men aren't supposed to suck each others cock , it makes it more titillating . i'm going to a bathhouse today , and i hope i can get a big fat cock in my mouth while i'm there. i like to have other people watch me suck cock , so there is no doubt that i'm a faggot cocksucker !

[marine20]

update , just came back from the bathhouse and had a great time. me and an asian guy 69ed and he shot his cum in my fag mouth. he was smooth and sexy. then another guy in a group ,sucked me while he was getting sucked by someone else. he was a great cocksucker , and LOVED me calling him really dirty names. very satisfying time there. when i got home the wife asked me where i went . i told her the bathhouse . she just smiled and said oh nice. she knows that i just got done sucking cock and enjoys that thought .

[Rest85]

It is definitely part of the allure for me!

Maybe 'wrong' isn't the right word, although 'taboo' can likely be synonymous with 'wrong' in this case.

Anyway, while I sometimes fantasize about my gf stroking a guy's cock while I suck it, in reality I know that might take away some of the arousal factor for me if she was aware of my oral secret.

I LIKE the fact that I've got this sexual secret and it turns me on to some degree that I sneak to be a sub cocksucker for guys. I love to suck married guys, no recip....the taboo of serving another man and him assuring me he will keep out secret is a powerful aphrodisiac!

[Rest85]

I wouldn't call the added excitement that I find in bi or gay sex 'wrong' so much as perhaps 'taboo.' But I think the taboo element definitely adds spice.

The first time I was with an adult man the taboo nature of what I was doing was exciting in itself, such as my taking his cock out of his pants (and a man I had just met, for some added taboo), holding his cock and feeling the weight and the warmth of it, and listening to the sharp intake of his breath as I started to stroke it, feeling the fine skin of his cock as I moved it up and down his hardening shaft (a much different and sexier tactile sensation than stroking my own cock, doing which of course was itself somewhat taboo). These were things I knew I 'shouldn't' be doing, which added to the sexual excitement of actually doing them. Even being able to look closely at a man's cock and explore it was taboo, as was the knowledge that I could take out his balls and feel them and play with them if I wish. Those realizations alone were a real turn on. And of course knowing as I did them that the real taboo thing was to come; kissing and licking this man's cock with my lips and mouth and then sucking him off as my girlfriends had done to me was perhaps the most exciting taboo element.

It seems funny that this taboo feeling faded over time with this man, and it became very natural (and fun!) for me to take out his cock and play with it when he picked me up for one of our 'dates'. Although one taboo feeling I distinctly remember was when I was between his naked thighs (I was naked as well), and he was lying back and I was cupping his balls and stroking his thick cock between sucking and licking it, and the thought occurred to me that he had children older than I was (I was 17 or 18 at the time), but I had done things to him that his children would never do, like lying naked with him, playing with his nipples and kissing and sucking them, or licking the delicate flesh alongside his balls on his inner thighs (as I was doing at that moment). And not to mention sucking his cock and him cumming in my mouth. The taboo thought of this secret from his family was very exciting.

The other memorable 'taboo' experience with him that stands out for me was the night he brought his wife's babydoll for me to wear while I sucked him off. It was a strange and intimate and certainly a taboo experience for us both that he had included this, especially given she didn't know we had it. When I smelled her fragrance on it, I felt as if I were peeking into her underwear drawer. And feeling the inside of it where her (rather large) breasts had been seemed terribly intimate and sexy. But putting it on was completely taboo, and I wasn't sure how I felt about that (despite being really turned on by the thought of wearing it), yet I put it on anyway. I think the 'forbidden' nature of what we were doing was exciting for both of us, as he had a quite the orgasm that night, one we often talked about in the future (though we never repeated the babydoll thing). Upon reflection in later years, my only 'taboo' regret of that night is that I didn't make him call me by his wife's name. That would have been wild.

So, yes, I think an element of taboo adds to the excitement of bi and gay sex for me. But I also think it also adds to the excitement of straight sex as well.

That's a really hot post, park ave. I don't think I'd look very good in his wife's babydoll because I'm rather hairy, but I guess that's not the point. It would be the fact of teasing out my feminine side and my submissiveness that would be the real turn on, to wear his wife's clothes. And the idea of a man calling me by his wife's name while sucking his cock is a new fantasy for me now, thank you! Good thought!

[Grant_Norman]

As a kid I moccasionally felt guilt, in 50'S AND 60'S. But still loved sucking whenever I could. Still love it as much as I can, but have absolutely no guilt or shame. Suckming cock is wonderful.

Grant

[BigAlNYC]

The transgression part was a really big thing for me back when I started in the late '70s. I was a rebellious kid with older "hippie" cousins and really into going out and trying all sorts of things I wasn't "supposed" to be doing. Even with girls we did some things that weren't mainstream picket fence stuff for teens to be doing, but then those were still the pre-aids sexual revolution years.

Growing up in a large city I knew something about gay people and gay places, and I had had desires for sexual contact with other boys ever since I could remember, but it was also the "70s and other boys and men also teased and said disparaging things about "f*gs" all the time. So, the thought of actually playing with another man. taking his cock out and holding it, putting it into my mouth and actually enjoying the feeling of his hardness and excitement, being alone with him or in a space where there was no judgement, that all seemed very "wrong", very transgressive, and thus extremely exciting. The first few times I sucked a guy off, and enjoyed the feeling of his cum shooting into my mouth and throat, and thought about that while jerking off for days afterward, guilt and shame was somehow a part of the thrill. It was a secret, but oh so exciting, part of my life.

Like warmnsalty says above though, this feeling has mostly now dissipated over the years. More mainstream acceptance of same-sex sex (thank goodness!) and a much greater acceptance of my own variable sexuality has pretty much put an end to any feelings of guilt or shame I have about sex with other men, and with it the titillation of shame. Of course, it has been replaced by a very different kind of excitement.

[Tight1-4u]

this subject is something I have thought about for hundreds of hours over the years.. I have concluded that I got started at such a young age and with someone that I cared or looked up to very much that in the beginning it seemed very natural.. then as I got older and was told how wrong it was and that it was taboo I really never understood the implications.. then as I started discovering my own sexuality and my female alter ego I was confused.. how could something that felt so naturally good and right be so wrong?? As you all know I am and have been submissive bottom my whole life.. I have acted out the female role in sex my whole life.. my role has always been to do all the things a guy needs to get and feel to the point that he is so horny that he wants and needs to put his cock in my pussy and fuck me like a female and to impregnate me with his seed., I have always felt it was my
place., I remember the first time I wore female clothes with a guy.. I had met him at a bar we kinda zeroed in on each other pretty quickly.. we drank and talked and drank.. his girl friend was out of town for a few weeks and he was horny and feeling no pain.. he invited me to his place and I accepted.. we got to his place and started watching tv and drinking some more.. one thing led to another and soon we were talking sex.. he ask if I had ever done anything with another guy.. I told him yes.. next thing I know he is on top of me kissing and making out.. his hands were on my breasts., clothes started coming off.. soon we were naked and wrapped up in each other.. kissing making out hands every where.. he was on top of me and I had my arms and legs wrapped around him as we ground our hips at each other.. he said I want to fuck you very badly., I want to cum inside of you very deep.. all I could say was yes please.. he ask me if I ever wore female stuff while having sex?? I told him no.. he ask if I would?? I said yes!! He told me to go to the bedroom and look in his girls drawer and pick out something and try it on., so I did.. I found black stockings and garter and panties.. I put them on and immediately felt very feminine and fulfilled.. I felt as if I had found what I had been looking for my whole life.. when I went to his bed I was his girl.. all I wanted and needed was him inside of me.. it was very different having him inside me that night.. he was fucking a different part of me.. I was so amazed at how it felt him fucking me as a female.. all of which led me to transitioning to female a year later.. knowing it was wrong and knowing that it was taboo got me to his place that night.. finding my female half that night changed my life., now all these years later I know she is there.. I know that sex is good!!! I know that it is ok to have sex with whomever I want..

[KDaddy23]

The thing about this is knowing that it's wrong... and not giving a fuck about that because, duh, it can't really be that wrong given how many men do, in fact, have sex with other men. The social conditioning is pervasive and persistent and, for some, it's pretty hard to ignore that you're doing something you have no right or business doing with other guys but, at the same time, it feels pretty damned good to thumb your nose at the wrongness and taboo of it or, yup - it's good to be bad. If we're wrong for making each other bust a nut, I definitely don't ever want to be "right."

Where's the fun in that? It's morally wrong to have sex with a woman you're not married to but that doesn't seem to bother some guys all that much - but sucking a guy's dick? The wrongness of it can bother the shit out of them even when they know they want to suck that dick or be like Tight4U and very willing to get their south forty plowed. The wrongness of it only becomes a problem when you allow it to.

[sweetnuts69]

Yes, for a long time now

[tongueteaser]

Its the being naughty that gets me going for sure. The idea that I just sucked a man and he used my mouth for his cock. It does feel a little wrong as most people believe so I get off and excited by doing it. Added excitement letting a man cum in me and I like it but many people dont accept same gender sex. Im simply giving pleasure though and sucking cock is awesome no matter what others think

[KDaddy23]

At the end of any day, it's not what someone else thinks about this - it's what you​ think about it.

[TRICK69]

My turn on to cocks i feel is when the wife does not want sex anymore. I looked at porn then went to gay porn. I still love women, but a hard cock turns me on too.

[Rest85]

Being wrong has nothing to do with my excitement. I'm into giving pleasure, but not so much in receiving it. So, my thrill comes from the act of getting on my knees to pleasure a man in an act of submission. The excitement is because it's different, not because it's wrong.

That's a very good point about the submissive factor. Speaking for myself, a big part of my arousal comes from the knowledge that sucking another man's cock is somewhat taboo. But, again, speaking for myself, an even bigger part of my desire and arousal comes from being in the role of submissive, on my knees to pleasure another man's superior cock.

[papasmurph]

Taboo is a good word for it... having sex with someone of the same sex may be more accepted now than it was when I first started out, but having random sex with anyone - a person you don't know - a person you just met and hit it off with - whatever the situation and whatever the sex of the person - that is what is taboo still.
We seem to make sex a thing to acheive in an ongoing relationship. We think about the stages of the relationship developing - like a Hallmark movie or something - but what makes our thing more "wrong" and gives us that feeling of adventure may very well fall to the taboo nature of hooking up with someone who, like us, wants to have sex. Whether we kiss or touch or whatever the depth of the call might be - the fact that we can engage with someone we don't know or aren't inclined to be engaged with for a serious relationship, ongoing... that is the taboo!