I find this funny

[Jazminedress]

I see personal adds

"Straight guy for CD or TS "

or

"Gay for straight"

Now, maybe it is just me and the way I think, but, if you are a male, and you are having sex with another male, then you are not straight.................you are somewhere on the spectrum of in between. Whether as some put the disclaimer, "I am just getting a blow job, not like I am touching"

(Of course, same for women)

I get the whole wanting to hold onto your identity thing, but, if you have been with more than say, 5 guys ?
Then it is no longer experimenting, you are either slightly bi, bi, very bi............or turning the corner.

Anyways, I just find it funny how I see these, but it is Sunday and I may be slightly crazy, so there is that

[cajunman696960]

I also find it funny lol, I said I was bi cruious until I was with a guy twice, after the second time I know I'm bi.
Now I do understand if you never were with a man, cd or ts I can see the curiosity and beleave you are bi curious.

[KDaddy23]

Yep, always cracks me up, too, so you're not that crazy. I've said that if you do it once, you just might still be straight; if you do it more than once - and it doesn't matter if there's time between the first and next time, eh, you might not be all that straight - but if you've done it more than once or twice? Your straightness is questionable but you're right: It's about how one identifies to themself. The guys who I've heard say that if we're sucking dick - but we don't cum in each other's mouth, it's not gay; ditto for fucking and let's not forget that some folks say that oral sex isn't really sex so that blowjob or a girl eating her friend's pussy... doesn't mean anything. Still straight and nothing you're going to say to them is going to change their minds.

[Jazminedress]

In some ways I a lucky, guys are easier going, they can convince themselves (even though I am not passable), that there is a feminine aspect, so its not really bi or gay

[KDaddy23]

Yeah, I've found that guys are way easier to have sex with than women are and it's easy for us to convince ourselves that if we have sex with a guy, it's "just sex" and doesn't "mean anything" and in that emotional way of things. It's even funnier when you consider that guys have sex with a guy and they... find out who they really are on the inside. "Gays looking for straights" has always cracked me up and beginning with... why? Well, um, even among men, if you can take a guy's "cherry" in this, it doesn't get any better than that, does it? I'd say that you might not see an ad where a straight guy is looking for a gay guy like that - or maybe they are - I dunno but I find it all hilarious and more so when the "straight" guy continues to insist that he's still straight and despite all the man-sex they're having and/or looking for.

[Jazminedress]

Yeah, I've found that guys are way easier to have sex with than women are and it's easy for us to convince ourselves that if we have sex with a guy, it's "just sex" and doesn't "mean anything" and in that emotional way of things. It's even funnier when you consider that guys have sex with a guy and they... find out who they really are on the inside. "Gays looking for straights" has always cracked me up and beginning with... why? Well, um, even among men, if you can take a guy's "cherry" in this, it doesn't get any better than that, does it? I'd say that you might not see an ad where a straight guy is looking for a gay guy like that - or maybe they are - I dunno but I find it all hilarious and more so when the "straight" guy continues to insist that he's still straight and despite all the man-sex they're having and/or looking for.

I dont klike virgins, male or female, too much work

[coastocoast]

I have heard guys say as long as you are receiving oral and not giving it, penetrating and not being penetrated and never touch the others cock they are straight. I suppose if nothing ever happens physically and it is only thoughts you can make a case for being straight but if you physically engage in same sex acts, straight would not be a description I would use.

[Neonaught]

I have heard guys say as long as you are receiving oral and not giving it, penetrating and not being penetrated and never touch the others cock they are straight. I suppose if nothing ever happens physically and it is only thoughts you can make a case for being straight but if you physically engage in same sex acts, straight would not be a description I would use.

I think this is a fine example of rationalization.

[KDaddy23]

@Jaz, I haven't come across a female virgin in a whole lot of years but while I've deflowered a few, I've "deflowered" more guys. Sure, it takes some work with some of them but, at least for me, it's rewarding - but maybe I'm just weird like that.

In other news, coastocoast makes a damned good point; as long as a doesn't give head or get anally penetrated, it's easy for them to believe that they're still straight. Knew a couple of guys who were into mutual masturbation and didn't think that made them bi or gay. It's rationalization and justification that supports what they think of their sexuality but this is where some guys insist that words speak louder than actions.

[jjourneyman]

I see personal adds

"Straight guy for CD or TS "

or

"Gay for straight"

Now, maybe it is just me and the way I think, but, if you are a male, and you are having sex with another male, then you are not straight.................you are somewhere on the spectrum of in between. Whether as some put the disclaimer, "I am just getting a blow job, not like I am touching"

(Of course, same for women)

I get the whole wanting to hold onto your identity thing, but, if you have been with more than say, 5 guys ?
Then it is no longer experimenting, you are either slightly bi, bi, very bi............or turning the corner.

Anyways, I just find it funny how I see these, but it is Sunday and I may be slightly crazy, so there is that


So many Labels, Such little Time... sigh LOL

Yes, Jazminedress, Sunday musings can be fun and interesting. And you raise a great point. I've met several guys online (and a few in person) who defined themselves as "straight" but yet they were responding to M4M ads. I totally get that a lot of guys don't care for a lot of body contact, kissing or cuddling. But the point is, if they are cruising M4M ads, or if they are physically going to known cruising spots in hopes of getting or giving a bj (or more), then they aren't as "Str8" as they think they are.

One thing I do find interesting though is that F4F listings very rarely bring up the issue of sexual identity. Duh! Apparently, bi and lesbian women don't let their egos stand in the way of their sexual desires like men do.

[KDaddy23]

jjourneyman said, "Apparently, bi and lesbian women don't let their egos stand in the way of their sexual desires like men do."

I've always said that women are way cooler than men are about this. I've had bi gals tell me, "It's not that big of a deal..." and, well, it really isn't - unless one makes it like that and guys are famous - or infamous - for overthinking it.

[mtnmen2]

When I use to place ads on Craigslist or Doublelist when I would get a response I would ask sometimes when we hooked up or during the texts if they were gay or bi and I don't know how many times I got the response I'm straight. As we use to joke if you don't push back its not gay, but I would think to myself pitching or catching your still in the game. Denial is a strong emotion. It's like when you finish with a lot of bi guys they are usually dressed and out of there after they nut so fast you barely have time to get the lights on for them. That's okay for a quickie but I prefer the bi guys that are in tune with themselves or gay guys because I've found the making out part of sex is what makes it really great.

[IDunnoMan]

I'm the complete opposite. With a guy I want nothing more than to make him cum and then he can kick me out, it's kinda part of what makes it hot for me. If I'm with a trans girl I'm down to cuddle or go out and get something to eat. It's really just down to my attraction to men begins and ends with the penis.

Eta I also understand I'm definitely not straight even if I'm not attracted to men as a whole.