fat women

[Daisy999]

What's up with all of these fat women who are bi or lesbian?

It's annoying since I'm not fat or overweight and ALL the bi/lesbian women I see are and I don't like my women to be overweight or have let themselves go.

Why don't people take better care of their bodies and exercise at least or eat right? It's not that hard to do if you want to.

[TaylorMade]

Uhm, daisy, not to be impolite but...

Broad Brush much?

New Rule for when I take over the world: If you want to criticize someone's appearance, show your face first.

*Taylor*

[biwords]

You might want to ask that charm school for your money back. :)

Of course people should take good care of themselves, eat their greens, get enough sleep, etc. And no one can tell you whom you should or shouldn't be attracted to. But a little exercise you might try is to look at someone who, in terms of weight, is at the very top of the range you consider acceptable, or in fact just a little beyond; and to consciously focus on what's sexy about them that you may have overlooked. You'll be surprised at how sexiness starts popping out everywhere...

[deletetacount123]

That was rather harsh.
Some overweight people try everything in thier power to work out and eat right. Its not thier fault if nothings working.
Especially when they hear people calling them "fat"... it makes them feel bad so they get stressed and depressed which doesn't help at all.

True I tend to like my women to look healthy but if they are overweight, so what?? I would still love her the same.

We fall in love cause of who the person is inside. We SHOULD NEVER EVER EVER judge people based on looks. You can miss out on getting to know some REALLY GOOD people that way.

Im not overweight, Im happy with my body, I get treated unfairly all the time due to my hearing and the people that do take the time to get to know me are always amazed at what I can do. lol

[Fire Lotus]

Excuse me.....I'm a full figured woman. There are also other issues that come into play for some women other than diet and exercise.

And for the record, yeah, I may be a bit overweight but I am also attractive and sexy. (This has been the opinion of many, not just mine) AND I am as flexible and have as much stamina, if not more than a thin woman.

"I don't like my women to be overweight or have let themselves go." That's okay. We don't want someone as shallow as you are.

[Michael623]

Hey Daisy, let's see a picture of you.

[texasman6172003]

Hey Daisy,You are entitled to your preferences . But sometimes its more than due to peple letting themselves go. Sometimes weight is an hereditary thing. Some families i know the women have been of size thru several genarations. All i saying is it can be hereditary in nature. Just thought id give you something to think about the next time you seee a woman of size. Just remember its not all due to things like overeating.. Just my :2cents: ..

[s_shunpike]

Some people just should not have access to a keyboard it seems. It's one thing to have an opinion, it's quite another to share it. My parent's taught me that before i open my mouth (or in this case my fingers on the keyboard) I should think about whether or not what I have to say to someone or about someone would be hurtful.

We are all entitled to our opinions, but that does not mean that we should always excercise the ability to express them - especially when it comes at the expense of others.

The point of this site, if I am getting this correctly (I've only been a member for a short time) is a site where people cannot only find what or who they are looking for - but a site where people can come to feel safe and NOT be judged for what they are (sexually, size, color, etc).

This is my :2cents: worth.

[Mrs.F]

I could not believe my eyes when I read the words "Fat Women" and then opened it to find someone with no picture, no profile and obviously VERY immature!!!!!!! :disgust:

If you can't say anything nice...please don't say anything at all!!! We all have our likes and dislikes but you need to know how to be tactful and respectful to people's feelings. :2cents:

Good luck in finding that perfect woman :bowdown:

[arana]

Daisy, you not only have no pic in your profile you have no information about yourself. What are you hiding and why? You have the nerve to condemn a physical type because that person is open of themselves, but you show nothing of yourself that tells us that you are any better. Plus which you give us a good insight on your compassion or lack there of. If the person you see is not to your liking move on and find someone you ARE interested in, like normal people do.

By this thread you not only alienated people of size but also anyone with morals, etiquette, and class. I don't know where you are looking but not all lesbians and bi's are large women. I come across a vast variety of people here and in person that are of different shapes, personalities and sexual orientations. Maybe you need to get out more.

[darkeyes]

Some peeps shud jus keep ther gobs zipped! Or in this case ther fingers kept well way from a keyboard. The wonderful thing bout humanity is ther variety in shapes sizes colours an everythin else. Wots beauty 2 1 is not 2 anotha we all knows that...but 2 b so offensive is an unnecessary abuse of the right 2 opinion. Have been attracted 2 an slept wiv sum that u wud call "fat" Daisy.. an inside is often a beauty those of us not so bodily endowed often lack cos of a vanity created by being closer 2 wot is considered the norm. As bi's we get slagged for bein bi..jus cos sum r not perfect in weight an size must they cum in ere an get ripped 2 shreds by heartless foul mouthed an viscious people who r meant 2 b our own an who so obviously don care bout ne 1 but themselves!

[midwestseeker]

I agree. That was a rather unelegant way to word that question.

And frankly, I love women of ALL body shapes. Such things dont really matter IMO if you love the person.

After all, im far from having a perfect body, and I'd like to think my past gf's loved me anyway.

I hope, anyway. :)

[SweetBlackAngel]

Clearly, this Daisy knows how to win friends and influence people.... :rolleyes:

[IanBorthwick]

MY GOD! I have to say you just rubbed me the wrong way REALLY hard! I am fit, take care of myself and I adore fullfigured women. If you want an Olive Oyl figure on a woman then don't be surprised when you don't find them everywhere. Not to mention the fact that UNDERweight women live 2 years less then OVERweight women.

The Kate Moss look is positively repugnant! Bones are for dogs, and I love MEAT.

[Rhuth]

True. Beauty is subjective to a point. But 65 lbs ago, I couldn't get the bagger guy at the grocery store to help me. Hubby couldn't get off while making love to me unless I told little fantasy stories about skinny women. It is easy to see what he prefers when we are both checking out the girls together. I just figured that with motherhood and age comes social invisibility.

Now that I have lost weight, in all the stores I go to, people pop out of nowhere to help me when I don't need it. The UPS guy, who has always delivered to me and never noticed me, has now memorized my name off one of my packages and waves to me when he drives by. Club owners usher me to the front of the line, and hand me passes to the private party. Everywhere I go I get noticed and treated with more respect. Even from the same people that ignored me before. It is wonderful fun, but I am grateful I was fat before because it keeps things in perspective.

Overall, I think there are very few men that fit the stereotype of men. Most men are terrific unselfish creatures. The ones that aren't are louder and get more attention but they are definitely in the minority. For an example, check out my post about men (http://rhuth.blogspot.com/2006/11/men.html)!

I think weight on a woman's body is different though. I am not saying most men treat fat girls badly. They don't. I am just saying that fat girls do not get noticed. Be it that they hide because of social shame, or society pushes them aside... maybe it is a little bit of both.

I do notice that it is the jerks who literally wouldn't have given me the time of day that are now picking flowers at the side of the road for me. But the nice gentlemen whom are quietly hoping my husband will change his mind never voiced such hopes before I lost weight. I was a friend that did not inspire thoughts of love when I was heavier.

Most of my social value seems to come from the size of my waist. It is a whole different world between the two sizes. Now that I have experienced both, the social reasons for maintaining my weight are a far greater motivator than any health reasons.

No, I am not developing an eating disorder from it. I tried that and failed! Apparently you cannot develop anorexia without a genetic disposition for it in combination with strep throat. I've had strep throat before. I can't starve myself, so I must not have the genetic disposition. A lack of gag reflex is terrific for giving head, but sucks for trying to develop an eating disorder!

So I gave up, hired a personal trainer and a dietitian, and lost my weight through diet and exercise. It turns out that's the easy way, and an eating disorder is the hard way.

I am not saying diet and exercise are easy. Being of a high enough socio-economic class enables me to spend enough money to ensure success. Rich people have the means to get thin. Not all rich people are able to sacrifice their social values. All the weight loss books say your children will have a better mommy if she is healthy. That’s crap. My children suffered from my not being able to spend as much time with them as I was loosing the weight.

I know it makes men seem terrible and shallow, but I wonder if there isn't a genetic reason for fat girls not being noticed. Even in the artist's time, Ruben was in the minority in his taste for large women. Just as overcompensating with skin and bones is not really as popular as the magazines portray it today. In most cultures in time, a girl with a healthy weight means more than the beauty of her face or personality.

Ever read Fat Land (http://dir.salon.com/story/books/review/2003/01/09/fat/index.html) by Greg Critser?

My Before Pic (http://bp0.blogger.com/_HiWut4gs0mY/RXgxmC3GMVI/AAAAAAAAAAk/x32AothTyZ0/s1600-h/Before+Weight+Loss.jpg)

[biwords]

I dunno, Rhuth, your 'before' pic looks pretty good to me! But I take your point, and your post was humane and (incidentally) beautifully written.

As for 'fat girls don't get noticed', can we confront the final shocking taboo and say that the same is true of, uh, shorter-than-average men? Except that diet doesn't help!

biwords
5'6"

[fortyniner1]

Daisy has her opinion. It is our place as inclusive people to hear others and what they believe. But what she said hurt. It hurt me because I know a lot of people are overweight and it isn't because they lack willpower or focus. It is because they are fighting a life long battle that they know is very serious. I am a big guy, but my wife loves me because I have a big heart too. She is no skinny minnie her self but ooh la la, she really strums my heartstrings!! Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, it is said, and most of us that have posted a reply see a lot further into people than you.



Judge not, lest ye be judged. :)

[onewhocares]

Well. I shall be proud to be the first one to start a collection to send "Miss Daisy" to a charm and etiquette school. I am sure that she could learn lessons in tact and decorum. I am sure PAY PAL will take any contributions.

Just a point of information...I am Belle and I am the straight wife of a Bi man. Since you are insinuating that all Bi women are fat...does that mean all straight women are skinny. Well my dear, I am not. I am a tall, curvy, chubby chick who is happy with who she is. And from the response that I have gotten from this site, I guess people like what they see. Unlike YOU, many people do look beyond what a person looks like and sees the inner beauty of each and every man or women. Perhaps if you too did this, you would not be as cynical as you sound.

I feel I have a right to comment......I.....AM........FAT. There I have said it.


Belle

[littlerayofsunshine]

I'll take an over weight healthy beautiful vivacious woman, over a socially inept skinny skank anyday

[Bi-ten]

Hey there,

I was a fat kid for about 5 years, I was teased, tormented and bullied. I lost the wieght back then (and kicked some ass), and now I work hard to keep it off. The curves that I have now are all in the right places (although I could use more cleavage lol)... and helps me feel sexy when I go out as Sally.

I have not seen anyone who isn't beautiful in their own way, and the ladies here are beyond beautiful in my books!

God Bless

[Tommy2020]

What's up with all of these fat women who are bi or lesbian?

It's annoying since I'm not fat or overweight and ALL the bi/lesbian women I see are and I don't like my women to be overweight or have let themselves go.

Why don't people take better care of their bodies and exercise at least or eat right? It's not that hard to do if you want to.

Daisy999.... or is that 666 turned upside down? My, you have a way with words. Your caustic tongue hath wrought you many, many negative responses as to what you can do with your fingers besides play on a keyboard. Like, for instance, stick one finger in your ass and the other in your ear and play telephone operator. You forgot your manners about posting in this wonderful forum and have, without question, let your mother down when she told you, as a spoiled little girl, that if you can't say something nice, keep your opinions to yourself.
Have a great day, bitch......
Yours truly,
Tommy2020 :soapbox:

You know it's going to be a bad day when 20-20 shows up on your doorstep at 0800 hours.

[TorontoGuy2007]

hi daisy

with an attitude like that, i think other people's weight should be the least of your concerns..

[NorthBiEast]

What's up with all of these fat women who are bi or lesbian?

It's annoying since I'm not fat or overweight and ALL the bi/lesbian women I see are and I don't like my women to be overweight or have let themselves go.

Why don't people take better care of their bodies and exercise at least or eat right? It's not that hard to do if you want to.

So let me get this straight? the only people who are allowed to not meet your specific physical requirements are the ones who wouldn't be attracted to you anyway?

Yeah, I could lose a few pounds. Yeah, I have more important things to worry about than toning my thighs. But I know that when I find somebody to be with, I've weeded out the shallow people. :girl:

[ElizabethJane]

I'm laughing at the time and effort that has been wasted in dignifying this sort of post with a reply, and yes - moi aussi, I'm making the same mistake myself. :wiggle2:

[deremarc]

I thought this was going to be a post extolling the beauty of chubby, curvaceous, rubenesque women. Was I surprised!

I have to agree with the post about being treated differently when you are overweight. I was 5'6'' and 120-130 pounds most of my adult life--until after my 4th kid. I wasn't small because of how I ate-I was small in spite of it! But, my metabolism changed with my 4th-and I ended up having to buy my clothes on the "big" side (the plus side) of the store. I learned first hand what it can be like to be overweight in comparison to being in the average side of things. I can tell you that it is true-people ignore you in stores, on the street, etc. I was not used to that.

I have lately lost 25 pounds (with at least 30 to go) and am starting to be noticed again-go figure.

My man LOVES big women (breasts, rears, thighs etc). He appreciates beauty in all types of women, but would take a chubby girl over a skinny one hands down.

I told him sometimes I think it is worse to be in the middle (where I am now). People like really fit women, or model-thin ones, or overweight in all the right places women-whether you call them chubbies, plumpers or bbw.

Haven't seen any evidence of people who really go for the middle type of girl-not skinny, not curvy big breasted chubs...just an average girl with a little bit of a tum and medium size breasts.

I see the beauty in either end of the spectrum and feel average/mediocre compared to either type of girl.

I see nothing wrong though with having personal physical preferences-I prefer dark haired slightly (at least) bigger guys. I am not as attracted to skinny men (of course having an awful ex who was skinny might have something to do with it...lol). But, I wouldn't address negative comments about anyone's body-I look at the inside. My man has a tum (and not a little bit one either)...we both find each other incredibly sexy and teasingly call his tum his "buddha belly" and he calls mine my "jelly belly".

But, I can tell you this-not only do you miss out on some really great people if you only focus on looks-you may be missing out on some really great sex! I used to not be attracted to men with bellies, but his size and weight feel great in bed-and when you are having sex-I think bigger actually does feel better-and I am not talking about the size of a man's *#*#. As for my body, I think it feels great. And, I am healthy, my doc says so, and I exercise and eat right...but still not a skinny minnie girl.

[2 NEEDS 1]

sup miss,sorry but not all bi/les women r big...thers nothing wrong with being a lil over weight and some women are just born in big families like that...maybe u sould lick,suck,and fuck a big woman and let her do u in return,maybe u just might enjoy it....Beggers Can't Be Choicers!!!!!!!!

[pasco_lol_cpl]

Ya know I comeinto the thread, read the first post and gotta go :eek: . To me its not someones size , skin color, or other physical appearance that plays a major role in my attraction to them. Id rather know the person inside.

[izzfan]

Hi Daisy, I'm not going to be as critical of you as most of the other posts- I guess you probably won't even read this post [as its after all of the more critical posts which will probs put u off reading further]. The way I see it, you need to learn more - I mean your sweeping generalisations about lesbians and bi ppl seem to show that you haven't met many of them.

Now that I've got that out of the way, I would like to say that you're perfectly entitled to your preferences. I mean, I'm not particualrly attracted to annorexic stick insects and I'm not particualrly attracted to people who are really [I mean sort of technically 'morbidly obese' not just fat] obese. But personality tends to be much more important than looks, I mean nobody in real life is like the airbrushed/ annorexic/ muscular models you see in the media.Some of the most attractive women I've ever seen could probably be described as slightly on the more rounded side. Hell, I have a bit of a stomach and people used to take the piss out of it for a couple of years when I was in school but I don't care now [Don't worry, I'm not into any of that 'fat lib' buisness lol] its just how I am, I mean I just tend to wear baggy T-shirts and its hardly noticeable.

To be honest unless you're going for a completely meaningless one night stand [ I mean, I have had one night stands but I've tried to make sure that they're not totally meaningless] then try to get to know the person a bit and you'll find that appearence doesn't matter as much.

Izzfan :flag3:

[Jeff1229]

Good grief!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you have any sort of idea how much hurt that post may have hurt someone. That was totally childish and and uncalled for. Perhaps you need to look inside yourself and see where or if any beauty lies.

I'm an overweight male and have run into the same type of prejudice you just so tactfully laid out there for the world to see. Posts and attitudes like yours HURT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So grow up and try to see the good in everyone. Haven't you ever heard the the old saying of don't judge a book by it's cover???? Some of the most beautiful people I have ever had the privilege of knowing have been overweight. :soapbox:

[12voltman59]

What's up with all of these fat women who are bi or lesbian?

It's annoying since I'm not fat or overweight and ALL the bi/lesbian women I see are and I don't like my women to be overweight or have let themselves go.

Why don't people take better care of their bodies and exercise at least or eat right? It's not that hard to do if you want to.

I just had to put in my :2cents: on this post---as a man who is carrying around more weight than I should for my height and that is not good for either my health or physical appearance--I do get a bit prickly when I hear someone diss us "fatties"

I think Miss Daisy must be a fairly young person--probably very skinny--it is too bad she makes such a sweeping condemnation about so many of her fellow ladies and by extension-the guys too.

Yes--it is very unhealthy that so many people fall into the medical categories of "overweight," "obese" and "morbidly obese."

If one is thin--it is so easy to think that being "fat" is always the result of some failing on the part of the overweight person. As someone in another posting here said --there are many elements in the equation that lead to someone being over their ideal weight that goes beyond simply personal behaviors.

There are many other health factors at play and when it comes down to what we eat--I put the blame squarely on the food industry itself.

In the mass production of food--they do many things that have been found to be most unhealthy, but guess what--it is profitable because it is cheaper to use the things they do such as preservatives, too much sodium, transfats, and the worst thing at all---CORN SYRUP.

I was chatting with someone right before I came to check the forums---I had just heard a report about how a medical study found that our "epidemic" of obesity and diabetes increased dramatically within a few years that the food industry began to switch from cane sugar to corn syrup--the percentages was well into the hundreds of percentage points---all done in the name of profit.

One more nit with Miss Daisy---you view is very shallow and superficial to judge the quality of someone based purely upon their weight----kind of like judging someone on the color of their skin and not as the late Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. so famously said many years ago---"to judge on a person's character."


I do bet you are young--let me tell you this since you have as yet not realized it--beauty is really only skin deep and as we age--the skin --along with every other body part suffers from natural deterioration--you can try to fight the effects of aging but it does happen, so beauty fades and what is left is what kind of person one is.....does one have character? did you respect your fellow human beings? have compassion and empathy for others and not always to operate in one's self-centered interest? --Things like that----

As far as my weight "problem" is concerned--I am working on it---it may take me time, but I have a goal in mind as to a eventual target weight and I now have many reasons to stick to the steps I need to take to get to my goal.

[Domino]

This thread is LAME. There are also lots of straight fat woman, being bi or a lezzo has nothing to do with it. You just must hate fat people. My guess is that Daisy will be a fattie in her next life, hopefully one that needs a crane help her shift sides so she does not get bed sores.

[deletetacount123]

This thread is LAME. There are also lots of straight fat woman, being bi or a lezzo has nothing to do with it. You just must hate fat people. My guess is that Daisy will be a fattie in her next life, hopefully one that needs a crane help her shift sides so she does not get bed sores.

Bad Karma tends to happen to those that are disrepectable......

As for next lifes..... ya, be careful what you say in this lifetime or you may just experience it in the next left.
Hey Domino, are you into past lifes/reincarnation??? (PM me if you do!!)

[Daisy999]

You people take stuff WAY too seriously. Is it really this PC around here that someone can't voice their opinion or state what they're not into?

I read how a woman in New Hampshire was told by her medical doctor that she was overweight/fat, needed to lose weight, and the woman wanted to sue her doctor for telling her this. This is absurd.

Of course I know that NOT ALL bi/lesbian women are fat, and that there are tons of fat straight women. I'm just going by the type of women I usually see in lesbian bars/clubs/dating sites. I hear about how people in the US can't control their weight and have poor diets from eating bad food.

I'm not going to post my pic since I came here just to have erotic chat and I work in a job where I'd get fired if it was discovered that I'm into women sexually. No I'm not young I'm 36.

Why does it matter if I'm not into bigger/fat women? I'm sure there are lots of guys on here that don't like bigger/fat men and like guys that look like the abercrombie/twink type.

Who says I'm not into bigger men? Which I do happen to be into, my boyfriend is big/muscular.

How does it hurt you? Is your self esteem that low that you get all bent out of shape when someone who you don't know simply posts their preferences on the internet?

I'm just stating MY preferences in women and I don't see anything wrong with it.

It doesn't make me a bad person because I don't find fat women to be asthetically pleasing, sexy, or want to have sex with them because they don't turn me on.

I don't understand these people that get easily upset by people who say "no fat women", "no old people", "I'm attracted only to white people", or "don't contact me if you have any psychological baggage", etc. I've seen ads like this on here and other dating/sex sites and it's not a big deal people are just simply saying what they don't like.

State what you like and what you don't like, it's YOUR life and we all have our preferences and they don't include everyone. why be hypocritical or lie just to please others?

[arana]

Firstly Daisy, I would like to apologize for my previous post. It was made in haste and I feel more haughty then productive. You like everyone else is entitiled to your opinion and beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder. Everyone's personal tastes are different and we have no right to condemn you for yours.

However do I still feel you picked an inappropriate and destructive forum in which to convey you're convictions. I hope that you will reflect upon any hurt, anger and defensive feelings that creep into your heart while reading these replies and realize how others may have felt while reading your original post.

P.S.
Why does it matter if I'm not into bigger/fat women? I'm sure there are lots of guys on here that don't like bigger/fat men and like guys that look like the abercrombie/twink type.
If it doesn't matter what other people think of what you like, why did you post this in the first place?

[scubaman]

I don't think it was what you said but how you stated it. How to win friends and influence people 101 will go a long ways. We all have our preferences. With the way you initially stated it in short was rude. Could have been stated differently. It is easy to sit behind a computer and be the person you dream about, but to be honest and up front like 95% of the people on this site are says alot about the character and acceptance this community has. Not asking for you to conform, but to be respectful of the other in this community. :2cents:

[Domino]

Daisy I can see where you were comming from, but bare in mind, by saying what you said you are not only insulting fat woman, but also the people that love them. Just remember there is someone for everybody and if we all had the same taste then there would be hell shit fights.

I was a fat teenager so when I read this I felt nothing but compassion for anyone that would read this and take offence.

You know now days when I walk down the street and some hot guy is giving me the eye or tries and chats me up, I sum him up with one question.

" Would he be chatting/ looking at me if I was fat "

I tend to ignore a hell of alot of guys, because I remember all to well. :bigrin:

[pecker]

Seems to me that everyone that had a reply to Daisy's post,had the right to speak their minds! Why not Daisy? Must be a [ Click] thing..................

[darkeyes]

Daisy it doesnt matter a bit whether you are into fat women or not. That is always a matter of personal choice and taste. What does matter is the choice of words in your original post which is not only insulting but to many very hurtful in the extreme and shows little feeling for those who may have weight problems for many reasons other than lack of exercise or bad diet, problems I am afraid modern living and food production and processing does little to alleviate.

The choice of words you used was unfortunate in the extreme and were similar words and tone used to describe asian, african or any other ethnic group you would quite justifiably be accused of racism. That is where we part company. I for instance am not attracted to people with dyed ash blonde hair, uncircumcised men, and the last thing I am attracted to is a stereotypical butch lesbian, but I neither would use extreme language such as yours to describe them or show a complete lack of respect for their basic humanity and right to be as they are.

Of course I respect and accept how you feel, just as I would hope you would be able to accept my own likes and dislikes, I merely ask that you show a little more understanding of the world and those who live in it and the problems they may face. One final thing, we all know people who are overweight and unhappy and for one reason or another feel unable to do anything about it and many spend a fortune to do someting about it. Some however are comfortable with how they are and your criticism is as hurtful to them as any. The trick isnt to slag people off for being what they are but to get at the root problem if problem there is and deal with it there.

[warmpuppy]

To those who qualify as Big and Beautiful Women (BBW), please let me say that I absolutely adore you. To each his own, but I will take a BBW over any other type.

:bowdown:

As for Daisy, you should be ashamed of yourself, girl. :disgust:

[bi-robin-calif]

Now that I have lost weight, in all the stores I go to, people pop out of nowhere to help me when I don't need it.

Rhuth, something similar happened to my ex. After we separated she was diagnosed with cancer. She had surgery, as well as radio- and chemotherapy. Now, almost two years later, her hair still hasn't come back all the way. Sometimes she wears a wig.

She told me a while ago that she wore her long, blonde wig to church one week, and it opened her eyes. People--men especially--who had never even talked to her with her "normal" hair were all over her like flies, wanting to know who she was. And this, after she had been there over 6 months.

My point is that not everyone has the (pick one: maturity/wisdom/tact/common sense, decency) to look beyond the superficial. In that respect, American society has become somewhat Japanese, in that what you do doesn't matter so much as how you do it.

Take the art of Budo: Zen ritual archery. Form is everything. The way one approaches the target, takes a stance, draws the bow and releases the arrow are the only things that matter. Whether one actually hits the target is of no importance. But--and here's the thing--they rarely miss what they're shooting at.

In much the same way, people need to take the time to perfect their approaches to and views of other people. Whether one is interested or not interested in a relationship of any kind with another person doesn't matter; one should always aproach others with respect and dignity.

And yes, everyone is entitled to express thier opinion, but it can be done more tactfully than it perhaps was done. (But that's just my opinion.)

And now I'll shut ma mouf and get down offa my soapbox!

[spoiledangel860505]

Uhm, daisy, not to be impolite but...

Broad Brush much?

New Rule for when I take over the world: If you want to criticize someone's appearance, show your face first.

*Taylor*

I have so much to say to few posts on here I thought I would start with yours. I agree, you need to first show your face before you criticize someones appareance. That's stupid I think....lets see a picture of you Daisy.

[ambi53mm]

I believe everyone has a right to express their opinion. Most do with respect and consideration of other's feelings..in your case the only thing that comes to mind is "Cunt"...like your post...sometimes you just have to call it like you see it.

Ambi :cool:

[usedbear1950]

We all have physical preferences. That's natural. And some of us use physical preferences as a higher order of discrimination in chosing a partner. However that is not the highest order of priority for others. I count myself as one of the later rather than the former. It appears that you are one of the former. Neither of us is correct, nor incorrect. So why all the furor?
It's not so much what you said but how you said it. You have a right to your opinion and I stand to defend it. You do not have a right to state your preferences as being right. Only right for you.
We seem to be in an era when a person can say what they want, apologize and perhaps go to rehab. How about considering what we want to convey before we say/write it?

ur ever luvin
usedbear

[meteast chick]

Wow Daisy! Lady(if you are one), we all have our preferences. That's what the ads are for. Put in your profile what you like and don't like(oh wait you don't have one). I mean, it's a free country and all but what you've just done is alienated not just the pleasantly plump, but men, trannies and 'skinny' women aside.

So Kudos to you for being uncouth. Maybe you call it honest. I just think it's rude.

no luv and no kisses here...
meteast

[spoiledangel860505]

I've been trying to figure out what to say to the originial post all day long, and I have decided that Daisey999, you are so shallow, rude and a racist that you aren't even worth my time to actually give my opinion to.

Karma will come back and bite you in the as* for being so rude and disrespectful and I think its chicken sh*t that you criticize people without having a picture of yourself.

[Lisa (va)]

My advice was going to be to stock up on batteries until I read that your only interest was erotic chat.

But I really take the same stance as Bear.

I also noticed you took offense to what others said in regards to the original post as might be as anticipated by the responders; just as you should have realized some members would take offense to your post.

Lisa

hugs n kisses

[entropy]

I think a lot of people were shocked at the insensitivity in your post and the size of pedastol that you seemed to be sitting on when you wrote it..

First thing is that all of the people who replied realise that even though some may have a choice in the matter, a lot of them do not. And the people that don't have the same sexual urges as everybody else, and have to deal with why they get treated differently than you.

Being a guy, and fairly muscular, i can't personally relate but everybody can be human. You were just being out of line and speaking on a public forum like you might to your friends, and people called you on it. Don't be defensive, be understanding... especially since all of us share a bond in hoping the rest of the world does the same for us.

[Herbwoman39]

Daisy, I seriously doubt you're still reading this thread but I've got to put my two cents in anyway.

When you get older, your metabolism slows as a natural part of aging. I'm 40. I've had two children and I admit I haven't taken the best care of myself in the past. Now I work out for 90 minutes twice a week with a personal trainer and walk 30-45minutes six days a week.

I've also been diagnosed with hypothyroidism. It doesn't run in my family...it gallops. My mother and both her sisters have it. My grandmother had it. Now I have it and have probably had it all my life. Hypothyroidism is when the thyroid or master gland does not produce enough hormone to keep the metabolism (among other things) running properly so everything gets stored as fat.

So the next time you criticize those of us who are carrying a few extra pounds, just remember...when you have kids, you'll be just like the rest of us and I will be laughing. Time and gravity are amazing equalizers.

[CHOCOLATECITY32]

oh my ppl have a way with words and they can get offensive when they r skinny or pettite me personally i love all kinds of women but i prefer women that r about 165-190 hell ppl come in all shapes and sizes and this is a site 4 loving and support we do not criticize ppl here b/c some can knock the weight off and some can't it depends on the person and how they feel about their weight i am single and i would love a nice healthy woman 2 marry

[Solomon]

Daisy you're right, everyone's entitled to their opinion and I believe you've received some, quite frankly i feel that it's totally deserved. enjoy! :cool: :cool:

[greg232a]

its worth repeating..............fat bottom girls you make the rockin world go round

[Solomon]

Looking to run for or from office Oralguy?

Does your mom let you at the computer often?

bet that neuron's a bit cranky after stretching just to type that in, ya might wanna take about a year off with lotsa booze, and drugs... the heavier the drugs the better!

[Tommy2020]

Nawwww.......
Tommy2020

[entropy]

Oralguy, isn't that the reason we should be more understanding?

While you're just as bad as everybody else, then you can't really expect for them to change.

[CountryLover]

Ya know, I put up with this kinda crap from my ex for years. When I divorced him, I discovered that he was wrong, and so is Miss Daisy. In the 3.5 years I was single, I never sat home on a Fri/Sat night unless I wanted to - PLENTY of great guys and gals out there enjoy a person for their real worth.

I was at my top weight of 280# when I met my to-be-new husband on a blind date. We knew before the date was over that there was something special. He's a handsome man, in good shape ...and I asked him how he felt about my size. He gave me a blank look - he really didn't know what I was talking about! Then he patted my round tush fondly and said he didn't care if I lost weight or not, just so long as I didn't lose THAT!

We make love on average at least 4 times a week, and often more frequently than that. We're sooo sensual and love touching, cuddling and hugging a lot besides sex.

MissDaisy, you have a lot to learn. Age, babies, stress, and long hours at a sedentary job are all factors that overrule diets and folks like you. Your day will come too honey.

[flexuality]

aw poor baby... so as soon as you see something you don't like
you assume you are the adult and they are the children..

grow up and by the way...stay in canada.. we don't need more BUSH people
here.

up yours~!

Since when has age ever been a factor in maturity? Oh wait, you just proved my point.

[spoiledangel860505]

MissDaisy, you have a lot to learn. Age, babies, stress, and long hours at a sedentary job are all factors that overrule diets and folks like you. Your day will come too honey.

I may only be 21 but I agree with you, she doesn't have a clue what its like, I do know what its like to have stress, a job that isn't all that active. At least I'm not a racist against overweight women, I weigh 205, look at my pictures, am I over weight? I say yes and I used to weigh 250...

[12voltman59]

Based on the last post--I don't know if Daisy gets it or not---while she certainly has a right to her opinon and to express her opinon--I think what I was getting to in my original post was that one should have a bit of empathy for other people--to "walk in their shoes" and be a bit humble because as they say "for the grace of God, go I."

I don't think she does get it---in her second post---she expressed being pissed that so many were pissed at her---

I do like to be as welcoming and accepting of people as possible---thus far, Daisy has not given me much cause to say I intend to be her friend--I won't be unpleasant, but I just won't go out of my way to be buddies unless she does show a bit more compassion, not that she probably cares. I am fat so I guess I am a worthless, loser person.

Kind of goes back to something else I was getting at in my previous post-the real beauty of a person is far more than skin deep!!!!

[Long Duck Dong]

read the original post and thought *mmm, good way to show people how respectful and considerate that some people can be *

i agree with many people, that everybody has the right to express their opinion..... however how that opinion is expressed, can mean the difference between respect and friends and 95% of a forum, thinking that a person is a inconsiderate, rude and self centered person

I just think that the original post could have been worded a lil differently and the author may have got a constructive thread and not a lot of pissed off and offended posters replying lol

[Daisy999]

I made this thread because I was looking thru profiles on here and in one I saw pics of two morbidly obese people having sex and it's gross. Nobody wants to see that and the people who put it up should have at least put a warning in their profile. I'd be ok if there was some warning that there are nude pics in that person's profile but there isn't.

What positive thing can you say about seeing people like that? Congratulations on letting yourself go?

It's like something that should be on a shock website or in a John Waters movie.

As for seeing my pic, not gonna happen. Read my last reply to this thread.

I don't want kids either since I'm not a slave to my uterus like most women are.

Ambi-I am what I eat! ;) In that case you'd be a "dick".

[Solomon]

aw poor baby... so as soon as you see something you don't like
you assume you are the adult and they are the children..

grow up and by the way...stay in canada.. we don't need more BUSH people
here.

up yours~!

LOL!! i ask alot of questions which btw, you seem a bit embarrassed to answer, mom lookin' over your shoulder?... you make alot of statements, who's doing the ASSuming here?

Go back to smooching mr. 'go to Iraq if you don't want to be educated' kerry's ass!

As i recall that was the best the dems could do at the time wasn't it? and you're embarrassed and wanna whine, moan an belly ache cuz bush won?? I wanna whine moan an belly ache cuz he didn't have anyone better to run against! That's a failure of the democrats!

i don't think Hilarious Cliton is all that much better... she is still married to bill isn't she?

She certainly wants to run an hide from Iraq the same way Billy Bob ran an hid from Vietnam cuz gee there's just too many problems never mind how gutless it is.

Never mind that pulling out guarantees that all of the sacrifices made so far have been made for nothing, and we'd still hafta go back in at some point, cuz we fucked it up in the first bloody place, and i believe the expectation is that we at least have the guts to try to clean it up for good.

[Solomon]

I made this thread because I was looking thru profiles on here and in one I saw pics of two morbidly obese people having sex and it's gross. Nobody wants to see that and the people who put it up should have at least put a warning in their profile. I'd be ok if there was some warning that there are nude pics in that person's profile but there isn't.

What positive thing can you say about seeing people like that? Congratulations on letting yourself go?

It's like something that should be on a shock website or in a John Waters movie.

As for seeing my pic, not gonna happen. Read my last reply to this thread.

I don't want kids either since I'm not a slave to my uterus like most women are.

Ambi-I am what I eat! ;) In that case you'd be a "dick".

You certainly have my undying gratitude for not subjecting anyone to your mug shots either, and for not infecting the rest of the world with your eggs. Thank you! Amen!

[Daisy999]

LOL!! i ask alot of questions which btw, you seem a bit embarrassed to answer, mom lookin' over your shoulder?... you make alot of statements, who's doing the ASSuming here?

Go back to smooching mr. 'go to Iraq if you don't want to be educated' kerry's ass!

As i recall that was the best the dems could do at the time wasn't it? and you're embarrassed and wanna whine, moan an belly ache cuz bush won?? I wanna whine moan an belly ache cuz he didn't have anyone better to run against! That's a failure of the democrats!

i don't think Hilarious Cliton is all that much better... she is still married to bill isn't she?

She certainly wants to run an hide from Iraq the same way Billy Bob ran an hid from Vietnam cuz gee there's just too many problems never mind how gutless it is.

Never mind that pulling out guarantees that all of the sacrifices made so far have been made for nothing, and we'd still hafta go back in at some point, cuz we fucked it up in the first bloody place, and i believe the expectation is that we at least have the guts to try to clean it up for good.

I don't think you have any right to talk about AMERICAN politics or elections since you're CANADIAN and this thread is about fat women.

It's not about politics, incest, wanting to have sex with your stepkids, or thinking that it's somehow "OK" to do, which I don't get how you can be a parent and support. :rolleyes:

Plus republicans/conservatives are some of the most anti queer people out there and they'd put us queers in concentration camps if they could. Many of them see us as being subhuman, the scum of the eath, and want us DEAD.

[Brian]

This thread is closed for bad karma.

- Drew :paw: