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BiGuy19
Mar 15, 2007, 10:48 PM
Yeah, I'm a double virgin. Am I the only double virgin here?

Toad82
Mar 15, 2007, 11:06 PM
No, I am 25 and I still am.

TorontoGuy2007
Mar 15, 2007, 11:10 PM
double as in no intercourse with men or women?? if so, yes, i am still on this list. 33 yrs old. can anyone beat that?

Cerealk
Mar 15, 2007, 11:19 PM
Add me on the list I guess, but not for too long I hope >.>

nothings5d
Mar 15, 2007, 11:42 PM
I wouldn't consider myself a virgin if I had had sex with one sex but not the other. But haven't had sex with either, so I'm a 21 year old virgin...

deletetacount123
Mar 16, 2007, 12:29 AM
double as in no intercourse with men or women?? if so, yes, i am still on this list. 33 yrs old. can anyone beat that?

Im 27, never had oral, french kissing, no love at all :-(

My ex believed that sex was just a 1 minute quickie.... pants down, go in, bam bam, "ok Im done" gets off.

:( :( :( :( He never listened to my wants and needs... I am SO HAPPY Im done with him.

He lied and told everyone I cheated on him which I didn't.
Im being honest, telling everyone just how BAD he was in bed!!!! lol

99% Virgin woman - male.
100% virgin woman - woman

Daisy999
Mar 16, 2007, 12:41 AM
double as in no intercourse with men or women?? if so, yes, i am still on this list. 33 yrs old. can anyone beat that?

I read a post of yours where you talked about giving oral sex to women.

That's sex and you're not a virgin with women.

Ask any bi/lesbian woman and they'll tell you that you've had sex with a woman.

Don't go by heterosexual definitions of sex where "sex" is a penis going into a vagina or ass.

TorontoGuy2007
Mar 16, 2007, 1:17 AM
ahh daisy critisizing others, what a surprise..

warm heart
Mar 16, 2007, 1:22 AM
Go Daisey,

Too often we define sexual experience by heterosexual standards and accidentally wind up buying into the whole heterosexism understanding.....Proud of u Daisey

:tongue: :flag3:

Domino
Mar 16, 2007, 2:04 AM
My arse is a virgin. :bigrin:

IanBorthwick
Mar 16, 2007, 2:08 AM
Pick me up and knock me down. Right, wrong or indifferent, Daisy was rude about it and her entire posted message was misandronistic.

As I saw from her post here and her others posts, Tasha seems to define her idea of a relationship as 99% emotional and 1% sexual. So what you are saying is that by her standards she really should have said 99% with both. I can understand and back her feeling that a relationship is not predicated on sex but on love. Coitus, anal intercourse, fellatio, cunnilingus or any other sex is not LOVE. Her post was simple and understated but her message was clear.


Clear to those who were looking for it.

deletetacount123
Mar 16, 2007, 2:17 AM
Pick me up and knock me down. Right, wrong or indifferent, Daisy was rude about it and her entire posted message was misandronistic.

As I saw from her post here and her others posts, Tasha seems to define her idea of a relationship as 99% emotional and 1% sexual. So what you are saying is that by her standards she really should have said 99% with both. I can understand and back her feeling that a relationship is not predicated on sex but on love. Coitus, anal intercourse, fellatio, cunnilingus or any other sex is not LOVE. Her post was simple and understated but her message was clear.


Clear to those who were looking for it.

Ian, You made me blush!! lol

You are correct. My feelings when it comes to relationship is all about love. Sex which I perfer the term "Lovemaking" only plays a small part in a relationships... you can love someone in so many different ways.
Its not all about sex.

Domino
Mar 16, 2007, 2:25 AM
Ian, You made me blush!! lol

You are correct. My feelings when it comes to relationship is all about love. Sex which I perfer the term "Lovemaking" only plays a small part in a relationships... you can love someone in so many different ways.
Its not all about sex.

Tasha you are such a sweet girl. can't say I have ever made love. I like to call it Fucking I used to have a friend that would call it " having a scrape" lol. eww.

I actually believe sex is a main factor in a relationship.

deletetacount123
Mar 16, 2007, 2:40 AM
Tasha you are such a sweet girl. can't say I have ever made love. I like to call it Fucking I used to have a friend that would call it " having a scrape" lol. eww.

I actually believe sex is a main factor in a relationship.

Yes but so is commuication.... you don't even have to go "all the way" either if your in a relationship every time you start kissing and touching.
Sometimes its just nice to kiss and touch each other.

commuication plays an important role in any relationship.... sex is meanless when commuication isn't there which is what happened with my ex... I tried to tell him what I wanted, he ignored me and only did what HE wanted (quickie) there wasn't any love at all. I felt like someone he married so he didn't have to do "one nighters quickie" with people which he confessed he has done in the past.

Im pretty inexperienced cause of him and he was my first....

He thought oral and kissing (open mouth) were dirty and nasty.... as soon as he was done his "quickie" he was up and in the shower to wash his thingy.

I don't think he understood what Love and Sex means...... I had told him over and over and just gave up. He wasn't listening at all. Im done and over with him now and haven't spoken to him since September nor have I seen him since June.

Tasha

biwords
Mar 16, 2007, 3:31 AM
You are such a treasure Tasha. I'm so sorry you had to go through all that.

Fire Lotus
Mar 16, 2007, 3:47 AM
You are such a treasure Tasha. I'm so sorry you had to go through all that.

I second this.

Solomon
Mar 16, 2007, 4:47 AM
I read a post of yours where you talked about giving oral sex to women.

That's sex and you're not a virgin with women.

Ask any bi/lesbian woman and they'll tell you that you've had sex with a woman.

Don't go by heterosexual definitions of sex where "sex" is a penis going into a vagina or ass.

So you would agree that Cliton should have been ousted from office. so much for hating bush.

Daisy999
Mar 16, 2007, 6:37 AM
So you would agree that Cliton should have been ousted from office. so much for hating bush.
Clinton was just as bad, a conservative that just ran as a democrat and fooled most americans.

He just pressed the pause button on the downward spiral, and nobody remembers the war in Somalia, the war in Yugoslavia, and "don't ask, don't tell" is a joke sure GLBT people should not be kicked out of the military for being non-hetero but they should be allowed to be open and out about it.

A highly overrated president yes; but no I don't think he should have been kicked out of office for lying about having an affair, or for lying about having sex with Monica and other women.

It's clear that the Clintons have an open marriage and that Hillary knows about his affairs and probably doesn't care and probably has sex with men and women besides her husband.

TorontoGuy2007
Mar 16, 2007, 1:23 PM
i find it quite ironic that on a sexual site, there appears to be jealousy of those who claim to be virgins.

for the record, the last time i checked, in order for a "biological male" to lose his virginity, his erect penis must be inserted somewhere (mouth, bum, vagina).

what next Daisy? kissing will all of a sudden constitute losing one's virginity? how bout holding hands out of wedlock? is that sinful enough for ya?

I personally think the "virgin" title is quite meaningless. it does not define who a person is. the actual definition is quite loose anyway. if you go by the "traditional" definition of virgin, it is one who has not had their hymen damaged, therefore, all biological males are out of this question.

and what about all these people out there who "fucked around" for years, then all of a sudden want to call themselves "second chance virgins"? can such a thing really exist? well, sure, why not? people are free to attach whatever label they want to themselves and who are you or i to question or critisize them?

...anyway, onto sweeter topics... Tasha, you are very sweet woman, and i hope the day will come that you can enjoy the total 100% sexual experience that you so richly deserve, with that one special person!

Solomon
Mar 16, 2007, 1:41 PM
Clinton was just as bad, a conservative that just ran as a democrat and fooled most americans.

He just pressed the pause button on the downward spiral, and nobody remembers the war in Somalia, the war in Yugoslavia, and "don't ask, don't tell" is a joke sure GLBT people should not be kicked out of the military for being non-hetero but they should be allowed to be open and out about it.

A highly overrated president yes; but no I don't think he should have been kicked out of office for lying about having an affair, or for lying about having sex with Monica and other women.

It's clear that the Clintons have an open marriage and that Hillary knows about his affairs and probably doesn't care and probably has sex with men and women besides her husband.

so by your own posting you think that Bush should have been elected.

Chr15|
Mar 16, 2007, 2:41 PM
well i guess i am added to this list :bigrin:

bi-robin-calif
Mar 16, 2007, 2:58 PM
Im 27, never had oral, french kissing, no love at all :-(

Tasha, it's obvious the man was an immature idiot.

There was an article in Popular Psychology a few years ago, speaking the the myth that men reach their sexual peak at 17, and women reach theirs at 35. Yes, "myth." It went on to say that in purely mechanical terms--endurance, recovery time, quantity--then yes, men generally peak at 17.

But in terms of intimacy, patience, caring about satisfying one's partner as much as or more than satisfying one's self, there isn't a 17-year-old in the world who can hold a candle to a middle-aged man. I cherish *every* man or woman who does me the honor and pleasures of the flesh.

Which is why I used the word "immature" without even knowing his chronological age.

G.T.O
Mar 16, 2007, 3:16 PM
Add me too the list also. But I'm only 18 so the night is still young ;) Would prefer to lose it too a woman though but I don't see it happening anytime soon.

deletetacount123
Mar 16, 2007, 3:23 PM
Tasha, it's obvious the man was an immature idiot.

There was an article in Popular Psychology a few years ago, speaking the the myth that men reach their sexual peak at 17, and women reach theirs at 35. Yes, "myth." It went on to say that in purely mechanical terms--endurance, recovery time, quantity--then yes, men generally peak at 17.

But in terms of intimacy, patience, caring about satisfying one's partner as much as or more than satisfying one's self, there isn't a 17-year-old in the world who can hold a candle to a middle-aged man. I cherish *every* man or woman who does me the honor and pleasures of the flesh.

Which is why I used the word "immature" without even knowing his chronological age.

He was 4 years older than me.... so since im 28 this year (July) he'll be 32 in May.

He cared more about his online games than he ever did with me.

It hurt me A LOT when he used my being deaf (hearing impaired since I can hear with cochlear implant) as a reason not to commuciate with me... I would listen to him on voice chat when he played his games... hes talking more than he ever did with me. Trying to talk to him about that was pointless.

But like I said, he didn't care about my needs and wants.
It was over in 2004... I wasted 2 years cause I THOUGHT I could change him... get through him and all that but it failed.
My cousin reminded me that people have to WANT to change to make it work and he clearly didn't want to change.

Im done with him. Im much happier now :)
I have my friends and family :) (friends as in online and offline! and on this site too!!)

izzfan
Mar 16, 2007, 3:25 PM
Hmmm.... not really a double virgin [I mean it was only about 5 months ago that I lost my virginity] but as for earlier points, how to define a loss of virginity? Its a difficult subject especially with same sex activity. Personally, I class my first sexual experience with a man [a wonderful, sensual and brilliant night but nothing that much actually happened - eg: neither of us came or did much with each other] as my loss of virginity rather than my second ever same sex activity [about a week later with a different man - hey, when I arrived at university I kind of went wild for a couple of months- where we did loads of stuff anal, oral, 69 etc...] because that had a lot less feeling behind it, it was still good though etc...

As for sleeping with women, not something I've done yet. Perhaps it would be interesting to do in the future but I do tend to feel a lot more comfortable being intimate with men. So, the way I see it I would probably only sleep with a woman after I'd got to know her really well or if I was completely drunk [although the latter can lead to all sort of problems with opposite-sex encounters (eg: unwanted pregnancy and STD) and most same sex ecnounters (eg: STD) - I mean I was pretty wasted on my first ever same-sex experience and personally I felt it heightened the experience but as we didn't do much and used protection there was very little chance of catching anything anyway].

Daisy, I'm not an American so I don't know the intricacies of the American political system but I have to agree with you when you say that Clinton shouldn't have been kicked out of office for that buisness with Monica Lewinski. Ok, he came up with 'Don't ask, Don't tell' which is outdated but if the Republicans had been in when that whole debate had started - there would still probably be a complete ban in the US [I mean it wasn't until 2000 that the UK armed forces allowed LGBT ppl to serve]. Nevertheless, compared to G.W.Bu$h anyone could do a better job of running america - seriously, you guys urgently need a Democrat government .

Izzfan :flag3:

Daisy999
Mar 16, 2007, 7:58 PM
i find it quite ironic that on a sexual site, there appears to be jealousy of those who claim to be virgins.

for the record, the last time i checked, in order for a "biological male" to lose his virginity, his erect penis must be inserted somewhere (mouth, bum, vagina).

what next Daisy? kissing will all of a sudden constitute losing one's virginity? how bout holding hands out of wedlock? is that sinful enough for ya?

I personally think the "virgin" title is quite meaningless. it does not define who a person is. the actual definition is quite loose anyway. if you go by the "traditional" definition of virgin, it is one who has not had their hymen damaged, therefore, all biological males are out of this question.

and what about all these people out there who "fucked around" for years, then all of a sudden want to call themselves "second chance virgins"? can such a thing really exist? well, sure, why not? people are free to attach whatever label they want to themselves and who are you or i to question or critisize them?

...anyway, onto sweeter topics... Tasha, you are very sweet woman, and i hope the day will come that you can enjoy the total 100% sexual experience that you so richly deserve, with that one special person!
No I'm not jealous, why would I be jealous of someone who's only had a few sexual experiences with a few women?

No I don't think that any of it is "sinful" hahahaha, but again you're going by the HETEROSEXUAL definition of virginity which is penetrating an orifice with a penis.

We're NOT heterosexual so virginity is different for us than it is for heterosexual people, so don't use heterosexual standards for sex and virginity.

So you've had sex with women. Try doing it more.

I know queer people who consider making out to be sex and I'd agree with them.

Lesbian sex isn't all toys, vaginal fisting, and strapons like people like to think it is. Lots of times it's stuff like kissing, body contact, rubbing around, mutual masturbation, and stuff that has no "penetration" involved.

Resurrection
Mar 17, 2007, 10:48 PM
Go Daisey,

Too often we define sexual experience by heterosexual standards and accidentally wind up buying into the whole heterosexism understanding.....Proud of u Daisey

:tongue: :flag3:
agreed.
sex is more than just putting your penis in a mouth/ass/vagina.

the sacred night
Mar 18, 2007, 1:03 AM
I don't consider myself a virgin, but one might consider me one. If my hymen is damaged, it's from a speculum or a tampon or something, not a dick, but I've done so much other stuff with a man (oral sex, etc.) that just didn't involve vaginal penetration. I've never so much as held hands with a woman in a sexual way. Does that make me, like, a virgin and a quarter or something?