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stillconfused
Aug 3, 2007, 12:12 AM
We are hairy, nasty, and smelly. Some people are ok with that, but if you are tired of smelling your own feet, pits or crotch, I have 2 very simple tips: shave off as much body hair as you can without causing undue embarassment and use baby oil everywhere your stink eminates from. In the morning take a shower as usual then take 5 minutes to guarantee a stink free day by oiling up all the best parts. Forget about powders, you need to get the stink out at the atomic level. Baby Oil turns off or slows the sweating process keeping you nasally intriguing all day!

stillconfused
Aug 3, 2007, 12:32 AM
What a fucking asshole.

DiamondDog
Aug 3, 2007, 8:05 AM
We are hairy, nasty, and smelly. Some people are ok with that, but if you are tired of smelling your own feet, pits or crotch, I have 2 very simple tips: shave off as much body hair as you can without causing undue embarassment and use baby oil everywhere your stink eminates from. In the morning take a shower as usual then take 5 minutes to guarantee a stink free day by oiling up all the best parts. Forget about powders, you need to get the stink out at the atomic level. Baby Oil turns off or slows the sweating process keeping you nasally intriguing all day!

LMAO believe it or not, some of us actually enjoy smelling and tasting like natural human beings.

I like my own scent after a day or two and I've never had any complaints from men or anyone else, and I don't wear any deoderant or anti-persperants since then I wouldn't get my armpits licked by men and I wash/bathe like everyone should with soap and water and I'm fine. ;)

I'm not talking about going without bathing/washing with soap and water for weeks; but I like how men smell when they sweat or how my own/other men's sweat tastes. :D

I also just LOVE how my own and other men's crotches and bodies smell after we're all sweaty and have ejaculated! Nothing hotter! :)

What's even better is when you're like that and you're holding each other and kissing and it's the best feeling in the world!

I also enjoy men/women's feet and I like to have my own feet licked/worshipped by men and I like to do this to other men when I'm in a boyish/submissive mood. ;)

Also what's with the body shaving?

Not everyone wants to look like a twink/Ken doll clone or wants their guy/s to look that way. :rolleyes:

So no, men don't "smell bad".

I think that many people (especially most Americans, and also lots of women) are under the wrong impression that the natural human body smells or stinks when it doesn't and that using perfumes/deoderants/anti-presperants actually solves the problem when it makes you smell worse and does nothing if you actually do have body odor that's caused by bacteria and sometimes someone's diet or if they abuse alcohol.

Long Duck Dong
Aug 3, 2007, 8:17 AM
I have read the thread a few times..... and I agree with DD

I would much rather, be natural..... if I wanna go out and work and smell like a bushman... then I will..... working up a good sweat never hurt me....

being around people that constantly smell like deodorant, is a turn off for me.....
its so false......

maybe I am jaded in my views, but I respect people that work up a sweat and don't smell like a can of odorant....

there is a difference between a manly scent and a bushman stench........

the scent of a male is actually a part of attraction and it has been scientifically proven that more people are attracted to a clean scent of sweat, than to a person that smells of powders and oils

as for shaving.... thats up to the person.......some people naturally suit hair, it gives them that *look* that draws your attraction faster than the *shaved poodle * look

imagine meeting a nice guy or lady, you get intimate and sexual, go down on them and get a mouthful of odorant and oil......

give me clean and natural over perfume and fake, any day

GreenEyedLady(GEL)
Aug 3, 2007, 8:26 AM
Ok - I am one of those women that think a person smells if you dont wear deodorants. This goes for men and women. I don't drink alot and my diet is so so. I tend to eat alot of fruits and veggies, however if I go without wearing deordorant, im gonna smell ! And its not a nice natural human scent, its funk. A person can bathe all they want but if you dont wear antipersperants , especially men with hairy arm pits , you'll clear a room. Its disgusting

CountryLover
Aug 3, 2007, 9:17 AM
I come down on the "natural man" side. While I don't take it quite as far as DD, I do love the taste/scent of a hard working clean man who has broken a good sweat....oh YUM ;)

warmpuppy
Aug 3, 2007, 9:46 AM
What a jerk!!! I really need a piece of crap dweeb to counsel me on hygiene?

biwords
Aug 3, 2007, 10:38 AM
Ok - I am one of those women that think a person smells if you dont wear deodorants. This goes for men and women. I don't drink alot and my diet is so so. I tend to eat alot of fruits and veggies, however if I go without wearing deordorant, im gonna smell ! And its not a nice natural human scent, its funk. A person can bathe all they want but if you dont wear antipersperants , especially men with hairy arm pits , you'll clear a room. Its disgusting

I'm with you, GEL! And very well put.

biwords
Aug 3, 2007, 10:39 AM
What a jerk!!! I really need a piece of crap dweeb to counsel me on hygiene?

That doesn't sound very warm-puppyish to me. More like mad pit bull.

Tingly_Tickles
Aug 3, 2007, 1:00 PM
I myself would agree with the post I personally don't like the smell nor the taste
of anything like sweat or body odor it's an enormous turn off for me male or a
female.

After all though we all have personal preference so why attack this guy if he
wants to give a little advice on how to help keep down the smell for those that
don't like it.

Yes I think maybe it could have been worded a lot better other than saying men
are hairy and smelly and what not but still it gets the point across the those
that don't care for the smell of a sweaty person.

creach
Aug 3, 2007, 1:58 PM
Ok...this may be weird but i LIKE the smell of sweat on a man! In fact i love it! there is nothing that turns me on more than a hard working man glistening in his own sweat MMMMMMMM x x x

Don't get me wrong i like CLEAN sweat! Not the two day old stuff that stinks like a nasty niffy homeless person... but clean body without deodorant or aftershave or any other kind of fake bottled smell and i am putty in there arms... i love the feel of sweat on me after a man has come - preferably his!! They are call pheromones and is the way that women would chose a suitable mate that would make the best match from a making babies point of view!

Keep washing guys but ditch the bottled smell and keep your own it's much much more alluring ;)

xxxxxxxx

DiamondDog
Aug 3, 2007, 2:15 PM
Ok - I am one of those women that think a person smells if you dont wear deodorants. This goes for men and women. I don't drink alot and my diet is so so. I tend to eat alot of fruits and veggies, however if I go without wearing deordorant, im gonna smell ! And its not a nice natural human scent, its funk. A person can bathe all they want but if you dont wear antipersperants , especially men with hairy arm pits , you'll clear a room. Its disgusting

Some men do smell but you can't say that ALL men do, or that it's nasty in ALL people.

For myself and many other men who don't wear deoderant/antipersperant at all we certainly don't smell or "clear a room", even if it happens to have been a day or a few days since we last bathed.

miamiuu
Aug 3, 2007, 2:32 PM
yeah we do. thats why i have to shower before any type of sex. ALso from what I have read it is a lot of work to do things like being a bottom and ensuring the rear is cleaned out. Not sure it is worth that lol

DiamondDog
Aug 3, 2007, 4:00 PM
yeah we do. thats why i have to shower before any type of sex. ALso from what I have read it is a lot of work to do things like being a bottom and ensuring the rear is cleaned out. Not sure it is worth that lol

If you're getting fucked by a finger/toy/cock/tongue there's no real need to douche/use a shower enema thing as this causes more problems than it actually solves and you can become dependant on them.

Also water can get stuck inside you and come out when a person is fucking you or rimming you and cause disgust and embarssment to everyone involved.

If you're getting fisted yes you should clean out with a shower enema type attachment or sure shot (regular anal douches that you can buy at a drugstore don't really do the trick like the shower/enema thing does).

Some men and women actually do enjoy having a guy with a dirty hole or tell their bottom not to clean or void him/herself at all.

I don't use water to douche myself out, or use any liquids/enemas to douche myself out as this seems a bit too medicinal and ultimately unneeded for the body.

I've also been told by doctors and hardcore bottoms that water/enemas take away the natural mucous lining of the anus and spread HIV and other STDs more easily if you're with a partner and having bareback receptive anal sex.

Plus for myself it's not a fun activity, not ultimatley needed for the body at all (if I were getting a colonoscopy done or being fisted those are other issues all together and cleaning out with water is something that should be done for these things; but I'm not wired to be a fisting bottom), and it gives me anxiety.

What I do is I go to the bathroom like normal, and take a crap, and I'll wash myself like normal with soap and water.

That's it. Nothing else is needed at all.

I'll also space out my meals and I don't eat anything a few hours before I put something in myself. I also don't eat any heavy meals during that day or eat right before I put something in myself.

Eating a diet with fiber helps a lot too, as does drinking a lot of water and staying hydrated.

Douching isn't needed at all and many men and women are under the illusion that it's a good thing and needed when it's not at all.

I don't put toys or even fingers or someone else's tongue in myself that often and it's not like I intentionally do this daily or anything so it's OK to do it once in awhile.

I'll also drink 2-3 cups of tea or coffee as this can easily clean me out.

If I take a shower that day I'll just wash my ass normal with soap and water.

I also take a shower afterwards to get cleaned up and wash the lube away.

I'm not even that anal oriented at all and not even into being fucked with a cock, this works fine, and it's what my hardcore bottom friends do.

It's annoying and sad how many bi/gay men seem to think that each and everytime they have sex with someone that someone has to get plowed/bred/fucked anally.

It's not as easy as it looks in porn and those men and women have been fucked a lot and stretched out and they do lots of prep work off camera and I've heard that for porns the men and women who get fucked anally how they don't eat for the entire day before the shoot, they clean themselves out with one of those shower enemas things as those work better than a douche, and they take an immodium AD.

Most men and women don't walk around all day freshly clean and ready to be fucked anally or rimmed.

Also in porn there is TONS of editing and that's why in general I don't like anal sex scenes in porn since they're so edited a lot of the time and just boring to watch.

I've seen really bad anal sex scenes in gay and hetero porn where it's clear that it's just recycled footage.

Real anal sex takes time, effort, you have to go very slowly, and even with piggy/hardcore bottoms who have stretched out asses and can take a fist, or a large cock or dildo it takes a long time to get a person's ass like that.

12voltman59
Aug 3, 2007, 6:48 PM
Well--I try to keep smelling as good and clean as possible--I now use many natural products like those from Burt's Bees like his bar soap, bath wash and now use their natural deodorant since after many years of using mass produced anti-perspirant---my underarms developed problems--it is not natural to supresss sweating---eventually it causes problems and then there is the issue of use of aluminium in commercially produced anti-perspirants---an element potentially tied to Alzheimer's Disease.

I guess I have to live with a bit more smell than I might like--but I do like to use all of those natural products like honey, lavender, coconut creme, etc. that are used in products made by Burt's Bees, Dr. Bronner's Soaps, etc.

raistkit
Aug 3, 2007, 7:00 PM
i'm allergic to most scented products (sneeze my head off, watery eyes). however stinky people do make me gag. so aruond our house we shower daily . no perfume to cover up the yummy pheromones. :2cents: kit

GreenEyedLady(GEL)
Aug 3, 2007, 7:04 PM
I too love the scent of a sweaty hard working man k. Im dating a mechanic who busts his ass all day long , but he wears deoderant. I've been in his bathroom , the man is all about smelling good.

stillconfused
Aug 3, 2007, 10:51 PM
Ok, so I'm a big useless fag. I just got 30 people talking about nothing. My next thread will be ''nasal hair, yes or no".

Long Duck Dong
Aug 3, 2007, 11:30 PM
I can see what both sides are saying.....but again I am sitting on the fence

its too easy to say that a person stinks of BO.... but I am not seeing anybody talk about the stench of deorants and anti perspirants.... and believe me... some guys I will not stand near......

I found that I developed a BO issue when I was sitting in a office day after day....cos my body was lacking the fresh sunshine and air that the body needs.....and also the exercise......
that all changed when i change to outdoor work where I was drinking a lot of water and breaking a solid, decent sweat....I could shower and change, and I was finding that I was attracting people a damm sight more

I like to see a man covered in sweat, breathing deeply and drenched in sunlight.... all natural all good... and fucking yummy......
and I perfer that over a office person, with pasty skin, drowning in odorants and anti perspirants, looking like a manniquin from a shop window....

ForbiddenWindow
Aug 4, 2007, 12:25 AM
Are they tryin to get us teh be more feminine? LoL no effort needed there!


Isnt that basically sayin we stink? i find that offensive...lol captain obvious strikes again.

AdamKadmon43
Aug 4, 2007, 12:57 AM
I guess I have to live with a bit more smell than I might like--but I do like to use all of those natural products like honey, lavender, coconut creme, etc. that are used in products made by Burt's Bees, Dr. Bronner's Soaps, etc.
I just recently discovered that Dr. Bronner's soap makes a really great pesticide.... If you mix it with water to about a one to five part solution, and spray it on plants that are infested with aphids, the little suckers just shrivel right up and die.

I wonder what it does to people?

I think that maybe I had rather just smell bad.

leredacteur
Aug 4, 2007, 1:38 AM
I'm puzzled by this post.

Secondarily, by the proposition that an ordinarily well-cared-for human body "stinks" and has to be shaven and deodorized. Properly-maintained human beings of both sexes smell wonderful without having to have all their hair removed and being coated with deodorizers.

My primary puzzlement, though, is that someone like this poster, who has no clear profile, is permitted to post at all.

I can understand someone not posting a facial photograph; I don't have one on my profile because I'm still active in the industry from which I retired and I have public speaking engagements every month or so. I don't care to share the details of my sex life or love life with just anybody so I preserve my privacy by not posting a photograph. I could post a photo of my cock, but I'm more than just a cock, for heaven's sake !

Does anyone else share my belief that only profiled members should be able to post here ?

spartca
Aug 4, 2007, 3:42 AM
Take two cotton balls and shove them up your nose. While you're at it, you might want to shove two in your ear canals so you won't have to hear anything that might affect your delicate mental sensibilities either.

Finally, take two cotton balls and shove them up your.... ;)

GreenEyedLady(GEL)
Aug 4, 2007, 8:00 AM
I'm puzzled by this post.

Secondarily, by the proposition that an ordinarily well-cared-for human body "stinks" and has to be shaven and deodorized. Properly-maintained human beings of both sexes smell wonderful without having to have all their hair removed and being coated with deodorizers.

My primary puzzlement, though, is that someone like this poster, who has no clear profile, is permitted to post at all.

I can understand someone not posting a facial photograph; I don't have one on my profile because I'm still active in the industry from which I retired and I have public speaking engagements every month or so. I don't care to share the details of my sex life or love life with just anybody so I preserve my privacy by not posting a photograph. I could post a photo of my cock, but I'm more than just a cock, for heaven's sake !

Does anyone else share my belief that only profiled members should be able to post here ?

Ok im puzzled by why you automatically assume that the poster isn't some high profile speaker or a public figure of some sort, maybe this is why his profile is the way it is. Myself , I like to hide mine occassionally before you blast off about that. As far as the post goes, I think In time you'll find there are many more post that too may puzzle you if your puzzled by this one. This is an a open forum, we're allowed to agree to disagree, and learn from them.

GreenEyedLady(GEL)
Aug 4, 2007, 8:03 AM
I'm puzzled by this post.

Secondarily, by the proposition that an ordinarily well-cared-for human body "stinks" and has to be shaven and deodorized. Properly-maintained human beings of both sexes smell wonderful without having to have all their hair removed and being coated with deodorizers.

My primary puzzlement, though, is that someone like this poster, who has no clear profile, is permitted to post at all.

I can understand someone not posting a facial photograph; I don't have one on my profile because I'm still active in the industry from which I retired and I have public speaking engagements every month or so. I don't care to share the details of my sex life or love life with just anybody so I preserve my privacy by not posting a photograph. I could post a photo of my cock, but I'm more than just a cock, for heaven's sake !

Does anyone else share my belief that only profiled members should be able to post here ?

And NO , I dont share your belief about only profiled memebers being allowed to post. The is a free site, and last I knew we have a freedom to speak openly.

biwords
Aug 4, 2007, 9:25 AM
My primary puzzlement, though, is that someone like this poster, who has no clear profile, is permitted to post at all...Does anyone else share my belief that only profiled members should be able to post here ?

I don't, because there's nothing either in the rules of this site or in common sense to support your belief. It's a little like saying that members with blue eyes, or whose usernames include the letter 'Q', should not be able to post here.

yewtahjim
Aug 4, 2007, 11:47 AM
Did I miss something ? The original post was directed to those who found odors on their own body offensive, why all the ridiculous self-defense posts? If you like your own smells and the smells of others, just shut up and enjoy them...wow...I can't believe the lengthy diatribes over such a simple thing as personal hygiene...I guess best response would be " get a life"

leredacteur
Aug 4, 2007, 12:53 PM
My, my, my, doesn't a simple question rouse some spirited, some vicious, responses ! My replies:

GEL - the poster might well have public responsibilities. But while a photograph is a UNIQUE IDENTIFIER, a simple text block giving age, locale, a few words about his/her experiences, desires, and aims is NOT. It has nothing to do with agreeing or disagreeing; before we even consider someone's proposition, I believe we should have a bit of non-uniquely-identifying information about the poster.
And as for this being a free site with the freedom to speak openly, just let a 16-year-old and a 14-year-old of the same sex log on someday to discuss their deep and consummated love for one another and you'll very quickly see how unfree public sites can be. Next time you post, re-read Drew's posting rules, at the top of the submission page. This is a relatively free-wheeling site, but there ARE some, few, rules and in my original post I simply posited a possible amendment to the existing rules.

BIWORDS: Much of my reply to GEL applies to your contention, as well. There being many millions of people with blue eyes, and a large number of people whose names contain the letter Q, those two things do not constitute unique identifiers. I'm perfectly happy with people protecting their privacy, their family relationships and, in some cases, perhaps, their safety by not uniquely identifying themselves. It just strikes me that when someone avails himself/herself of the opportunities of this site, he/she ought to be willing to reveal some few, very general, pieces of personal information. Think of this: assume that you're a student at a tuition free-state or municipal educational institution. On the first day of classes, a person without proof of student status, who refuses to identify himself/herself, and shows up dressed in a black jumpsuit and wearing a black ski mask and black gloves, informs all students that public education is a sham and all who participate in it are corrupt, dishonest, and unworthy of respect. Would you not want to know a tad more about the speaker before engaging in a dialogue with that person ?

The other, rude, response is beneath contempt and not deserving of a reply.

I submit that responders might want to reconsider my question. If this is an affinity group site, should we not be able to limit FULL participation to people of our group ? I'm not saying we should have their complete physical descriptions, their names and social security numbers, their telephone numbers and addresses. Just some basic information: male/female, young/old, experienced/inexperienced/curious, a state of residence, a reason for that person's desire to join the affinity group. Nor am I saying that READ-ONLY privileges should be denied visitor-types who provide the barest minimum of information about themselves necessary to gain access to the site to read and learn.

I might add, in closing, that this kind of thing is happening more and more often in the forums. Some of the most provocative (not necessarily in the nicest sense of that word) posts are coming from people who give us little or nothing in the way of information about themselves. "Drive-by" postings, if you will.

biwords
Aug 4, 2007, 1:25 PM
LeRedacteur:

I agree that requiring people to post their ages is not unreasonable, though people can lie about that as easily as about anything else.

The notion that 'before we even consider someone's proposition, I believe we should have a bit of non-uniquely-identifying information about the poster' is arbitrary. Someone's views stand or fall on their own merits. Whether those views are uttered by someone fat or skinny, young or old, white or black, isn't very important.

Secondly, if someone without a profile posts to a thread, there's nothing to stop you from posting your own questions in response ("are you fat or skinny, young or old?" etc.) or PM'ing the person. To suggest that people without profiles should be subject to prior restraint in posting has an unpleasantly coercive, dare I say Fascist flavour to it.

In any case, it doesn't matter what you or I think; if Drew wants to impose such a restriction as you suggest, he will. If not, deal with it.

Cordially,

Paul (51 years old, 5'6", blue-eyed, married, blood type B RH positive, interested in meeting new friends of both genders with or without benefits)

MarieDelta
Aug 4, 2007, 1:44 PM
LeRedacteur:

I agree that requiring people to post their ages is not unreasonable, though people can lie about that as easily as about anything else.

The notion that 'before we even consider someone's proposition, I believe we should have a bit of non-uniquely-identifying information about the poster' is arbitrary. Someone's views stand or fall on their own merits. Whether those views are uttered by someone fat or skinny, young or old, white or black, isn't very important.

Secondly, if someone without a profile posts to a thread, there's nothing to stop you from posting your own questions in response ("are you fat or skinny, young or old?" etc.) or PM'ing the person. To suggest that people without profiles should be subject to prior restraint in posting has an unpleasantly coercive, dare I say Fascist flavour to it.

In any case, it doesn't matter what you or I think; if Drew wants to impose such a restriction as you suggest, he will. If not, deal with it.

Cordially,

Paul (51 years old, 5'6", blue-eyed, married, blood type B RH positive, interested in meeting new friends of both genders with or without benefits)


Can I just say that I agree with an open site, even though we get a few odd balls. It keeps discusion fresh.

Plus I've noticed in my short time here that we as a group , have 1 thing in common, a love of freedom.

So yeah, even though I do have to put up with the occasional "I love SHeM@LEs" posts, I'd rather that than not have anyone able to post at all.

Just my two bits

onewhocares
Aug 4, 2007, 2:58 PM
I happen to love the SCENT OF A MAN. Granted do I want to engulf him in my arms after he has been working out in the heat of the day for hours? No, but I have. Rather I would relish the sight of him stepping out of the shower clean and refreshed, in body and soul. Then let him apply deodorant and cologne (not too much) and come to me and I will be turned on...not by just his scent, but his mind, his sense of humor, his .......

Belle

raistkit
Aug 4, 2007, 6:44 PM
poor leredcateur i think he doth protest too much.

kit

GreenEyedLady(GEL)
Aug 4, 2007, 9:11 PM
He doesn't even make sense to me lol

P.S - I still LOVE sweaty hard working men that wear deoderant !!!!!!!!! :tongue:

IanBorthwick
Aug 4, 2007, 9:42 PM
Um, ok...this is so gross. I spend mornings cleaning myself and 3-4 times a week I shave all my hair OFF. The Egyptians foudn that body hair kept smell in place, so I remove it when I can. I use soap daily, usually Axe, and body spray as well as deoderant daily. I do not smell disgusting, nor do I appreciate body odor in any way. It's a throwback to when we had to signal one anotehr we were of mating age by trapping and feeding bacterium in and around oil glands to send out enough ponging reek to let someone know the franks and beans don't shoot blanks anymore.

Now if you think that this PSA is going to get anyone to change from allowing themselves to smell like a rancid cheese walking down the street rolled in oily cathair, think again. With all the gay porn I have watched, I tell you there are those who love the idea of smelling off-season and enjoy smelling it off others.

Personally, to me, it's akin to cats and dogs sniffing each others rectums to get to know one another. I rely on my eyes, touch and talking to peopel to do that.

fishfry29
Aug 4, 2007, 10:03 PM
Im a retired machinists, aside from normal shirt soaking sweat from the everyday activities, everyone (well, not EVERYONE) has told me I smell of oil, or the smell of machining steel. The sweat of course I shower off, but the oil/steel/cast iron smell is in my pours. Been told I smell like grapes. any others that work with their hands similar?

Long Duck Dong
Aug 4, 2007, 10:53 PM
I can relate to that, fishfry lol

I worked at a piggery for a long time, and it got to the point where I got sick of people telling me that I smelt of pigs......gee I wonder why

the smell gets into your skin, cos its like you are soaking in pig stench and believe me, add anti perspirant or deodorant to the pig smell and you are only making it worse

finally one day, after a person mentioned at the smell of pigs on me, I simply said * thats right, I stink of pigs, but I am one of the people that pays that price, to put bacon, pork, ham and sausages on the tables of many people.... but the stink of my skin is nothing compared to how much your attitude stinks *

its all too easy to complain about * smelly * males, but often, its not as easy as using soap and shaving off hair

jem_is_bi
Aug 4, 2007, 11:56 PM
I do not like the smell of armpit body odor or the dead fish taste of sweaty genitals. Also, I do not like the smell of deodorants or perfumes, (they stink too).
A shower and a generous splash of isopropyl alcohol rubbed in the armpits will take care of body odor during the day (office work). Just shower and reapply alcohol to armpits before sex. I always take a shower and shave, plus brush teeth/tongue and floss twice before sex and insist my partner is clean.
Also, I am glad everyone on this site can add their opinion even if they trash me. I can handle rejection and criticism. I like a range of opinion on topics. Sometimes, even very disagreeable comments can be valuable.

JEM

TaylorMade
Aug 5, 2007, 12:16 AM
Some people are just gonna smell bad to some people. . .no doubt. One guy I know had halitosis to beat the band and smelled like off onions...yet his g/f had no problem with it. If that's your fetish, cool.

But others have a natural smell that's pleasant, whether that's due to diet or regular simple soap-and-water bathing, yet no deodorant. Some of my partners say I have that quality, and I'm grateful that I don't have to douse myself in perfume... and just simply bathe.

If someone smells pleasant to me w/o the help of cologne/perfume/deoderant, then, that's one task they don't have to do for me.

As for hair. . .count me under the Twink/Ken Doll Lover's club.:rolleyes: Some of my fetishes involve pouring substances on my partners body - - icing, honey, chocolate sauce, to name a couple. . .so hair is gonna fuck that up for the both of us, so going hairless is best. The most I can take is a patch on the chest. Beyond that, I don't need grass on my playing fields.

*Taylor*

Sarasvati
Aug 5, 2007, 9:45 AM
Foul body odours are disgusting! So many people don't care but I'm keeping away from them.

However if your lust is strong enough it can overcome such hurdlers.

I think if Taylor Made went unwashed for a whole month I would still be mesmerised by her and at the mercy of her command (after one month I might have to think about it though lol)...but that's TM...it's a privilege of true beauty.

The rest of you will have to change your diet and head straight for the shower. Or for someone else if you can't arsed.

dafydd
Aug 5, 2007, 3:36 PM
Whatever you do just please wash your hands with soap and clean your teeth.
I have seen so many guys not washing their hands in toilets. YUK! and then I have to open the door with my foot or something. one time I just waiting until someone else came in, so I could leave.
And NEVER eats nuts from a bar.
Id rather kiss someone with smokers breath than with hallitosis.

d

JoyJoyHollywood
Aug 5, 2007, 4:36 PM
I'm not so sure about that whole natural thing. I mean hey, if we were supposed to be 'natural' why would the Gods have created things like pleather, bleach, acetone, napalm and cocain? See the logic?

All I can say is this.........my ex could make a smell sometimes. It was bad. Like maybe a dead bat would smell like.

Man.

It was bad people. Real bad. Make your eyes cross. Give you a permanent facial twitch. Make your mind go blank. Create the need for a stiff belt of vodka. Make you just spontaneously say, "Niyuh-HYA-nug-AIYAHAIYAH-plthzzzzzzz." Eye watering bad. (Expletive) up your emotions bad. Send you into a seizure bad. It was just really bad.

But-he would normally only smell that way after he spent the day doing duckwork in a one hundred degree attic. And when he would come home he would sit on the sidewalk for about thirty minutes rocking himself and smoking before getting up to come inside. Then he would start shaking. Wouldn't touch anything. If you went near him he would start screaming, "DON'T TOUCH ME I'VE GOT POISON ON ME I'M POISON AND DON'T TOUCH ME I WILL GIVE YOU CANCER DON'T TOUCH ME!!!!" So, the smell wasn't as noticible. It just kinda hung in the air after he moved by. Not the time to use a lighter. The flipping out kind of masked the smellieness.

So, I believe that deodorant is good. I don't want to make people have seizures or give them a permanent facial twitch. Well, not because of the way I smell. That's just cheating.

And everyone needs to lay off smoking. Yeah, you complain about it now, but-smokers are the kind of people you want to hang with if there is a nuclear holocaust. We know how to do things. With iron oxide (rust), aluminum shavings and a magnesium ribbon. And the stuff we can do with empty two litter Coke bottles will one day rebuild humanity. There is a reason we smoke-it keeps us from completely flipping out.

And no one can complain about smoking smelling bad when they are surrounded by a mushroom cloud that smells of dead bats!

BRIARPATCH
Aug 5, 2007, 5:10 PM
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dafydd
Aug 5, 2007, 5:19 PM
I'm not even that anal oriented at all and not even into being fucked with a cock, this works fine, and it's what my hardcore bottom friends do.

It's annoying and sad how many bi/gay men seem to think that each and everytime they have sex with someone that someone has to get plowed/bred/fucked anally.


Why does it annoy you? Why is it sad? Just because you don't like it, or what?
Most of the gay guys I know who do anal sex do it because they like it. I don't think I've met one gay guy who thinks it's expected.
Although for newbies, I'm agree there could be that feeling from a pushy top.
d

DiamondDog
Aug 5, 2007, 7:14 PM
Why does it annoy you? Why is it sad? Just because you don't like it, or what?
Most of the gay guys I know who do anal sex do it because they like it. I don't think I've met one gay guy who thinks it's expected.
Although for newbies, I'm agree there could be that feeling from a pushy top.
d

I think that lots of gay/bi men emulate porn or try to and you shouldn't do that when it comes to anal sex.

I've met guys who are hardcore anal sex tops and hardcore anal sex bottoms and both feel dissapointed/horribly depressed if they don't have anal sex each and every single time they have sex with another guy.

Or I've picked up guys (not many as I'm not into hook ups/sex with strangers and they mostly wind up being a comedy of errors) and I'll tell them how I'm not into anal sex at all before we leave together, and then when we have sex they want to do it and get annoyed when it doesn't happen and it's not like I just surprised them or anything and I made sure that they knew this before we left.

I see anal sex between two men as an imitation of heterosexual sex between two men and I think that sex should be creative and there are TONS of things you can do with another guy that don't involve anal sex at all.

why is it for most guys that every sexual encounter has to involve someone getting 'plowed' and 'bred'? That's why it's sad to me.

It's like when you have sex with a woman or a man, you don't have to fuck him or her each and every single time.

Remember back when beating off with another dude, or even sucking dick/getting sucked was like the coolest thing in the world? And you thought about it for days afterwards...What happened to that magic?

Am I alone in this and just old fashioned?

Sex can become so scripted-out beforehand with the internet and porn.

orangecrush
Aug 5, 2007, 10:08 PM
First let me qualify this by stating that I work in a shoe store.

In my experience, it is 10 to 1 the people who are completely oblivious to odor who have true hygiene issues.

People who can smell their own scents (for good or ill) carry with them an awareness of how they might affect other people. If they have been outside in the heat, these people will normally apologise and request a try on footie before just slipping into a new sandal. It's a courtesy that is well appreciated, I can tell you.

People who have lost the ability to smell through illness, environment or acclimation over the years to chronic odor issues, though, they are dreadful. It's not just that it is difficult to be diplomatic in a situation so charged with the possibility for personal offensiveness (rudeness is even more stinky than bad feet) but how can you gently hint about the neccessity for a solution to a problem that your customer does not acknowledge exists?

Hmmm.

Makes me glad I only deal with feet at work.

open4bizness
Aug 6, 2007, 9:29 AM
It's annoying and sad how many bi/gay men seem to think that each and everytime they have sex with someone that someone has to get plowed/bred/fucked anally.
That must be a depressing superpower you have. Being able to read everyone's thoughts I mean.

TaylorMade
Aug 6, 2007, 12:51 PM
That must be a depressing superpower you have. Being able to read everyone's thoughts I mean.

It's diminished though. It used to be very powerful, reading into the minds of closeted men and everything. :)

*Taylor*

dafydd
Aug 6, 2007, 12:56 PM
I think that lots of gay/bi men emulate porn or try to and you shouldn't do that when it comes to anal sex.


I see anal sex between two men as an imitation of heterosexual sex between two men and I think that sex should be creative and there are TONS of things you can do with another guy that don't involve anal sex at all.

why is it for most guys that every sexual encounter has to involve someone getting 'plowed' and 'bred'? That's why it's sad to me.



I sort of understand what you're saying, but mainly disagree with you as I feel that you can only speak from your experience. I know a lot of gay guys who aren't into anal sex (actually most of my straight friends are with their female partners). I don't believe most people want to emulate gay porn in that way. I believe people have anal sex because they actually enjoy it. Granted when you take your first sip of cider it's gross, but later on you come to relish the taste of a beer. It was like me with anal sex, and once I discovered the pleasures of topping, well there was no going back for me. Personally i don't enjoy mutual masturbation (it seems to cold), and prefer the intimacy that prenetration provides.
Sex doesn't have to be creative. Sex for lots of people should be safe and comfortable and many people find comfort in routine. I'm not into all this swinging from the chandeliers, tantric exploration. For me there's nothing hornier than just lying down and doing it, with lots of kissing. To say that homosexual anal sex for some men is like an imitation of heterosexual sex is absurd. Gay men have every right to use as many holes as possible and make it as close as to what they percieve as lovemaking. Not everyone is into bondage/SM and other 'non-vanilla' sexual activities. Most of my sexual partners have actually find these things quite embarassing and alienating.

D

open4bizness
Aug 6, 2007, 12:59 PM
It's diminished though. It used to be very powerful, reading into the minds of closeted men and everything. :)

*Taylor*
Only when he takes his Zoloft. :bigrin:

DiamondDog
Aug 6, 2007, 1:42 PM
It's diminished though. It used to be very powerful, reading into the minds of closeted men and everything. :)

*Taylor*

Joke and flame all you want but I feel bad for closeted men and what they go through but it's their own doing.

So I actually get out there and meet/talk to other gay/bi men even guys who are closeted. Big deal, I don't see most people on here doing that.

In my writings I never wrote about ALL gay/bi men or talked in absolute terms about ALL closeted/down low men but I just have written about what these men have told me and what I've experienced with them.

Open4Bizness-why all the stigma against people who take/have taken a medication/anti-depressant/SSRI, or who are mentally ill?

If it wasn't for those types of medications many of my friends wouldn't be alive right now.

TaylorMade
Aug 6, 2007, 1:49 PM
Joke all you want but I feel bad for closeted men and what they go through but it's their own doing.

I don't think they give a damn about your pity. Some people like the "closet". I admit when no one knew. . .I was just as happy as the next person. For some, sexuality is truly the last sanctuary of privacy, free from the questions, obligations, expectations and nosiness involving others can bring.

And , you know, it depends on how you define "closet". Some guys here- - only their wife/girlfriend knows what they do. . . their friends, family, co-workers, and others have no clue. Some would argue they're closeted because they don't date men openly, and simply hook up with one or two reliable same sex partners who are just as reticent.

Not everyone conforms to your way of seeing the world, and they don't want your pity when they don't.

*Taylor*

DiamondDog
Aug 6, 2007, 2:18 PM
I don't think they give a damn about your pity. Some people like the "closet". I admit when no one knew. . .I was just as happy as the next person. For some, sexuality is truly the last sanctuary of privacy, free from the questions, obligations, expectations and nosiness involving others can bring.

And , you know, it depends on how you define "closet". Some guys here- - only their wife/girlfriend knows what they do. . . their friends, family, co-workers, and others have no clue. Some would argue they're closeted because they don't date men openly, and simply hook up with one or two reliable same sex partners who are just as reticent.

Not everyone conforms to your way of seeing the world, and they don't want your pity when they don't.

*Taylor*

Chill out. :rolleyes:

How's it Pity?

If anything it's being grateful that I'm not that way, that I don't torture myself, and that I don't compartmentalize myself that way.

I view coming out as a positive thing and just say fuck the closet.

I've met men who are suicidal because of how closeted they are to their wives/family/husbands about their sexuality/gender/being into kink or just things in general.

Or you can read posts here from people who are closeted and how deeply it's effected them and how in general being closeted and compartmentalizing your life leads to some fucked up shit.

I'm talking about the men who are so closeted that nobody knows about them or that it's so obvious that they're not heterosexual that everyone else can tell except them.

DiamondDog
Aug 6, 2007, 6:02 PM
To say that homosexual anal sex for some men is like an imitation of heterosexual sex is absurd. Gay men have every right to use as many holes as possible and make it as close as to what they percieve as lovemaking. Not everyone is into bondage/SM and other 'non-vanilla' sexual activities. Most of my sexual partners have actually find these things quite embarassing and alienating.

D

How's this an absurd viewpoint?

Myself and many other men who aren't into anal sex at all view anal sex between two men as an imitation of gay porn and heterosexual sex roles, or just a bad mimicry of heterosexual sex between two or more men.

Personally, myself and many others don't think that men that have sex with other men should feel the need to emulate the penetration that occurs in heterosexual sex. We can have toe-curling sex without anal penetration, plus we get the benefit of having much safer sex at the same time.

I think as some point gays must have adopted anal penetration to emulate heterosexual sex and throughout time it has become the norm for gay sex.

But I still believe that two men... Yes, even two Tops can have just as much pleasure with each other if not more with oral and rubbing around (also called frottage) stimulation and external anal stimulation and without the need for Heterosexual type roles.

I'm not against anal sex. Though, I do think is risks outweigh its perks and I just don't believe it is a necessary aspect of gay sex. I don't believe that we have to pair up as tops and bottoms and versatile men.

Why can't we be just two or more men enjoying our sexuality together and having gay sex?

I'm writing about my own personal experiences interacting and talking with men who are anal sex tops/bottoms and how some of them are so anal oriented that they're just looking for another hole to fill or another cock to get fucked by.

I post on another gay/bi message board and someone once made a poll asking if bottoming/getting fucked or being a bottom cocksucker emasculates a guy and the majority of gay/bi men there voted yes! ;-\

I've talked to hardcore anal sex tops who talked about their bottom bitch boyfriend, or their pussy boy and his man cunt or his ass pussy, his pussy mouth, and other terms where they emasculate and debase the guy they fuck or get only sucked by.

I personally don't think this way but in the US/north America and some parts of Central/Latin/South America the top or the active guy is seen as "the man" or the "masculine" role during anal or oral sex, the bottom or passive guy for anal/oral sex is seen as the "feminine" role, and a guy that's versatile is seen as really being a bottom but he just doesn't call himself that.

Most heterosexuals also have this viewpoint about men having sex with each other but they just see it as one man is the "male" role and he's the top and one person's the "female" role and that's the bottom, and there's nothing else in between.

A good friend of mine who lived in SF/Berkeley for awhile told me how even there lots of gay/bi men had this viewpoint about anal/oral sex roles, and how because of this he refuses to tell anyone what he is. He and I have talked about how in the western view of sexuality how it's all based on penetration and how people judge other people based on this.

I've also been told by bisexual men that in ALL relationships between two or more men how there's one person that's the top and one person that's the bottom even if anal or oral sex isn't a part of the sex that these men do at all. I personally don't think this way but this is how some people do think and how they use these roles to describe their relationship with their male partner/husband.

Try talking to some hardcore anal sex tops, and gay/bi guys who don't even suck dick at all who are 100% top.

Many of these men feel that they're more masculine than guys who suck cock or get fucked, or think that they're better than men who get fucked for anal sex and guys who suck cock or who are total oral bottoms. Also some guys like this are homophobic.

I'm not sure how things are in the UK but in the US this is how things are and how people view and react to these terms.

There are lots of gay/bi men who take the whole top/bottom/versatile roles WAY too seriously and lots of men don't understand it if you say that you're not into those labels/roles or doing anal sex at all.

I've had men tell me how I'm "really" a top because I'm not into being penetrated or how I can only take a finger comfortabally or how I'd be a "top" simply because I happen to be very picky about who I give oral sex to.

I think it's fine if people do anal sex but I do think that the majority of men who do it are WAY too obsessive about the role/labels that they use to describe themselves and yes some men do anal sex because they think that they have to, because they view "sex" as penetrating an anus only just like heterosexuals view "sex" as only penetrating a vagina/anus only, and yes some people do anal sex not because they happen to be into it but because their partner is and they only want to please him/her.

Even Vanilla people have their kinks! They just don't call them that. ;)

I know guys who are vanilla who are obsessed with rimming and who can do it for hours or guys who are obsessed with mutual masturbation and cum control.

Anyway I think that more people should actually try kink/bondage/SM before saying that they're not into it at all and writing it off as their loss or something that they have no interest in doing since now they've tried it.

I can understand if someone doesn't want to do Master/Mistress "slave", Sir/Daddy "boy" stuff but there's a whole wide range of kinky stuff that one can do that doesn't involve this type of power exchange at all!

I know people who would define themselves as being mostly vanilla who are into light bondage/wrestling and pinning a guy down or who are into biting and agressive kissing and some people who are into playful spanking and not the over the knee stuff.

"Vanilla" sex is based on hetero-normative concepts of what sex "should" be, based on societal definitions. Ergo, if you are a bio-male who has penetrative sex with a bio-female in one of only several positions, for reproductive reasons then you might be vanilla.

The same goes for very specific subsections of "gay" sex where one person is a "top" (penetrative) and one is "bottom" (receptive) for oral or anal sex and the roles don't change at all... or in a "stone butch/high femme" dichomity for "lesbian" sex where practices and/or assumptions about the mechanics mesh with the dominant paradigm. Everything else is, in my mind, just "Kink" and we're all "perverts". ;)

Yes some gay/bi men do enjoy urethral sounds and there's nothing wrong with using this hole! Some women do enjoy urethral stimulation too!

Those people you have sex with who aren't into kink/bondage/SM need to live a little!

There's something out there for everyone! People need to explore sexual things until they find it! Who cares if it comes out of nowhere or if it's a surprise? Or if they discover a fetish/sex act/kink that they never thought they'd be into? More power to them!

Heh, watersports/piss play for example have become the new "vanilla" sex activity that many people are doing, same with spanking and bondage.

jem_is_bi
Aug 7, 2007, 2:20 AM
DiamondDog, I agree with a lot of what you believe about men and sex. But, many times we need to make choices between courses of action where both choices have their good points and bad points. In addition, none of us is qualified to decide what is the least bad or most good choice of action for another person. I am comfortable with 90% of my life. If I am OUT about my sexuality, I will be comfortable with 10%. Maybe, I should rate my sexual identity more than I do. Maybe, I would if I was younger or had different life priorities than I do. So, I choose 90% happiness.

JEM

dafydd
Aug 7, 2007, 6:09 PM
How's this an absurd viewpoint?

I think as some point gays must have adopted anal penetration to emulate heterosexual sex and throughout time it has become the norm for gay sex.

I'm not against anal sex. Though, I do think is risks outweigh its perks and I just don't believe it is a necessary aspect of gay sex. I don't believe that we have to pair up as tops and bottoms and versatile men.

Why can't we be just two or more men enjoying our sexuality together and having gay sex?

I'm writing about my own personal experiences interacting and talking with men who are anal sex tops/bottoms and how some of them are so anal oriented that they're just looking for another hole to fill or another cock to get fucked by.

I post on another gay/bi message board and someone once made a poll asking if bottoming/getting fucked or being a bottom cocksucker emasculates a guy and the majority of gay/bi men there voted yes! ;-\

I personally don't think this way but in the US/north America and some parts of Central/Latin/South America the top or the active guy is seen as "the man" or the "masculine" role during anal or oral sex, the bottom or passive guy for anal/oral sex is seen as the "feminine" role, and a guy that's versatile is seen as really being a bottom but he just doesn't call himself that.

Many of these men feel that they're more masculine than guys who suck cock or get fucked, or think that they're better than men who get fucked for anal sex and guys who suck cock or who are total oral bottoms. Also some guys like this are homophobic.

I'm not sure how things are in the UK but in the US this is how things are and how people view and react to these terms.


I agree with all of this. Actually I have posted views similar to this before on this forum, so there's nothing new here for me. I just feel that you can't say gays are imitating straight sex through anal fucking. Men have been fucking each other in the arse since time began, and this probably was before gender roles or modern notions of masuclinity and femininity.
It seems you have a big problem with the idea of two guys fucking in the arse, like it destabalises your notion of masculinity or something. With all due respect DD, my mate, you're views are sounding too dog(gy style)matic here.

peace
d

Also
"Try talking to some hardcore anal sex tops, and gay/bi guys who don't even suck dick at all who are 100% top."
I talk to them all the time. I talk to lots of people you know.

canuckotter
Aug 7, 2007, 10:27 PM
Does anyone else share my belief that only profiled members should be able to post here ?
I think you're pretty much alone on this one. Remember, this isn't a dating site. There is that aspect to it, but there are plenty of us who are here exclusively for the forums, and very few forums on the internet would ask for even a basic profile.

And I definitely disagree with the original post... Bathing is important, people who don't bathe often enough reek regardless of whether they're shaved or covered in perfume or whatever. But someone who's clean and just broken an honest sweat... As long as it hasn't had too long to turn foul... No problems at all there. ;) And seriously, why would I want to shave? I'm a man. A reasonably manly man, at that. Shaving would make me look ridiculous. :tong:

DiamondDog
Aug 8, 2007, 1:10 AM
I agree with all of this. Actually I have posted views similar to this before on this forum, so there's nothing new here for me. I just feel that you can't say gays are imitating straight sex through anal fucking. Men have been fucking each other in the arse since time began, and this probably was before gender roles or modern notions of masuclinity and femininity.
It seems you have a big problem with the idea of two guys fucking in the arse, like it destabalises your notion of masculinity or something. With all due respect DD, my mate, you're views are sounding too dog(gy style)matic here.

peace
d

Also
"Try talking to some hardcore anal sex tops, and gay/bi guys who don't even suck dick at all who are 100% top."
I talk to them all the time. I talk to lots of people you know.

Actually I don't care if two men have anal sex and some of the most "masculine" men I know are hardcore bottoms.

Anyway that's not what I said in my writings on this subject. Anal sex doesn't destabalize my idea of masculinity. I don't have the western/traditional ideas of top/bottom/versatile for anal sex, and anyway I don't think that as human beings we even really know what it means to be "masculine" or any gender really, and we can't really even define it well.

We don't have a clue what it is to be male or female, or if there are intermediate genders. Male and female might be fields which overlap into androgyny or different kinds of sexual desires. But because we live in a Western, patriarchal world, we have very little chance of exploring these gender possibilities.

It just annoys me how people seem to obsess over anal sex when IMO it's rather overrated/painful and there are millions of things you can do for sex, or the close minded men and women who see "sex" as only being the penetration of an anus or a vagina and nothing else.

I get bored when gay sex and porn are scripted with anal penetration and when the goal of sex becomes plowing a hole and power exchange via anal penetration when or having penetration as the "main event" when I prefer sex to be fun, exploratory, and I don't mind if there's anal sex in the form of rimming/toys/fingers but the only guy who I'd want to fuck would be a boyfriend and I have bottomed for guys with tongues/fingers/toys but I'd only let a BF/partner/husband use his penis on me.

I also don't like it when someone's goal is simpy ejaculating, getting fucked/fucking someone who they objectify and see as a piece of meat or as a body/as their whore (when there's not that type of scene/power exchange going on) and being pushy about it, having an orgasm and that's it see ya later bye out the door!

I want a new sexuality that's not based on labels for gender/sexuality and cultural expectations/norms.

dafydd
Aug 8, 2007, 1:18 AM
Actually I don't care if two men have anal sex and some of the most "masculine" men I know are hardcore bottoms.

Anyway that's not what I said in my writings on this subject.

It just annoys me how people seem to obsess over anal sex when IMO it's rather overrated/painful and there are millions of things you can do for sex, or the close minded men and women who see "sex" as only being the penetration of an anus or a vagina and nothing else.

I get bored when gay sex and porn are scripted with anal penetration and when the goal of sex becomes plowing a hole and power exchange via anal penetration when or having penetration as the "main event" when I prefer sex to be fun, exploratory, and I don't mind if there's anal sex in the form of rimming/toys/fingers but the only guy who I'd want to fuck would be a boyfriend and I have bottomed for guys with tongues/fingers/toys but I'd only let a BF/partner/husband use his penis on me.

I also don't like it when someone's goal is simpy ejaculating, getting fucked/fucking someone and being pushy about it, or having an orgasm and that's it see ya later bye!

I want a new sexuality that's not based on labels for gender/sexuality and cultural expectations/norms.

I think that sounds like a good thing.
Your disgust of penetration as the "main event" makes sense to me now. I guess for me, the only thing I would save for my partner are the words "I love you". Anything else I don't mind sharing with people I fancy/dig/like/lust after.

i like being with people and sharing.

but wherefore art thou romeo/juliet?

d

DiamondDog
Aug 8, 2007, 5:08 AM
I happen to love the SCENT OF A MAN. Granted do I want to engulf him in my arms after he has been working out in the heat of the day for hours? No, but I have. Rather I would relish the sight of him stepping out of the shower clean and refreshed, in body and soul. Then let him apply deodorant and cologne (not too much) and come to me and I will be turned on...not by just his scent, but his mind, his sense of humor, his .......

Belle

This is the sort of mentality that I was writing about in my first post.

Not to flame Belle but I just find this sort of thinking to be weird and some of the other posts on this topic about how sweat and body/facial hair are "dirty" is just the way some people are conditioned to think. I think people should get over this conditioning and just accept the idea that they're human and that nobody/nothing is 100% "clean" ever.

Sweat and body hair aren't "dirty" and like someone else wrote ISO alcohol works fine to clean a man's armpits.

I find it weird that our society has become so germ phobic and people are afraid to touch doorknobs/door handles, people act like they have a fragile immune system when they're perfectly fine, and I've seen automatic paper towel and automatic soap dispensers in public bathrooms.

Some colognes do smell good on men in small amounts; but if a guy (or anyone really) has taken a shower/washed with soap and water, and you know that you're going to have sex why put on deoderant?

Anti-Persperants and deoderants taste chemy and NASTY, they're not fun to taste in a man's armpit, and most don't smell too good either.

It's only sweat!

It doesn't taste that nasty and it doesn't smell that nasty either.

I've tasted my own and other people's and it tastes good and I find it weird that on here and other boards I'll write about licking men's clean armpits and people will say or think "OMG ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww!" but then they'll write about how they've barebacked a man or woman/been barebacked, rimmed someone's dirty hole, they like creampies/felching, swallowing cum from anyone, enjoying vaginal sex and giving a woman oral sex when she has her menstral period, or enjoying watersports/piss play.

If you want sex to be "clean" stay at home alone and masturbate wearing a latex glove. Don't let any of your bodily fluids touch your skin and then immediately afterwards cover your entire body with rubbing alcohol and let it air dry.

elian
Aug 8, 2007, 6:38 AM
Hehehe.. DD :)

I like using deodorant vs. the alternative - the odor can be rather pungent at times without it. Then again - I'm not involved with anyone who is crazy about armpits either...if you were excited by that area I could imagine that your tongue would probably taste like a sheet of perfumed aluminum and go into chemical shock before too long.

I wonder if people realize just how much role the sense of smell plays in our lives? I *don't* enjoy people who haven't showered for a week - but I do cherish the scent of a partner I've been intimate with, which usually lingers a bit after they are gone. .and then there's the smell of sex - just fascinating :)

And for my 2c there are lots of profiles on here that aren't very elaborate - just as some people aren't OUT in real life they aren't comfortable being out here yet either...a lot of newbies who just haven't cut their teeth yet either.

All that means is you have to either ignore them, or work extra hard to find out who that person is BEFORE you sleep with them. <evil grin>

There are a lot of peculiar things on the internet and I think the first or second rule has always been "If you don't want to see it, you don't look" - this works pretty well for most people - except for kids.

dafydd
Aug 8, 2007, 3:38 PM
This is the sort of mentality that I was writing about in my first post.

Not to flame Belle but I just find this sort of thinking to be weird and some of the other posts on this topic about how sweat and body/facial hair are "dirty" is just the way some people are conditioned to think. I think people should get over this conditioning and just accept the idea that they're human and that nobody/nothing is 100% "clean" ever.

Sweat and body hair aren't "dirty" and like someone else wrote ISO alcohol works fine to clean a man's armpits.

I find it weird that our society has become so germ phobic and people are afraid to touch doorknobs/door handles, people act like they have a fragile immune system when they're perfectly fine, and I've seen automatic paper towel and automatic soap dispensers in public bathrooms.


Some colognes do smell good on men in small amounts; but if a guy (or anyone really) has taken a shower/washed with soap and water, and you know that you're going to have sex why put on deoderant?

Anti-Persperants and deoderants taste chemy and NASTY, they're not fun to taste in a man's armpit, and most don't smell too good either.

It's only sweat!

It doesn't taste that nasty and it doesn't smell that nasty either.

I've tasted my own and other people's and it tastes good and I find it weird that on here and other boards I'll write about licking men's clean armpits and people will say or think "OMG ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww!" but then they'll write about how they've barebacked a man or woman/been barebacked, rimmed someone's dirty hole, they like creampies/felching, swallowing cum from anyone, enjoying vaginal sex and giving a woman oral sex when she has her menstral period, or enjoying watersports/piss play.

If you want sex to be "clean" stay at home alone and masturbate wearing a latex glove. Don't let any of your bodily fluids touch your skin and then immediately afterwards cover your entire body with rubbing alcohol and let it air dry.

I think this is because the sense of smell is a very acute sense, very emotive that can stir many strong reactions in people. Taste also. Licking armpits is not just about smell but also about taste, and to be honest my personal preference is that I would not want to do that, no matter how clean. Yes it does sound strange that I would rather give a blow job but I guess that's just the way I like it.
Some people have fears about germs because they are OCD. This is not because they are simply being squemish but because they have a psychological condition.
I agree that licking areas which have just been deoderised is really gross also.

d

biwords
Aug 9, 2007, 12:19 AM
I see anal sex between two men as an imitation of heterosexual sex between two men and I think that sex should be creative and there are TONS of things you can do with another guy that don't involve anal sex at all...Remember back when beating off with another dude, or even sucking dick/getting sucked was like the coolest thing in the world? And you thought about it for days afterwards...What happened to that magic? Am I alone in this and just old fashioned? Sex can become so scripted-out beforehand with the internet and porn.

I agree with all of this except for DD's oft-stated suggestion that anal sex between men represents some sort of (impliedly illegitimate) 'imitation' of heterosex. To me, this is a little like saying 'oh, come on, no one REALLY likes classical music, they just pretend to in order to seem intellectual'. Well, no -- there really ARE people who prefer Bach to Metallica, and there really ARE people who love anal sex. I happen to fall into both groups (though I haven't had anal sex since, ulp, since before DD was born!!!!!, I do intend to have it again reasonably soon.

jamiehue
Aug 9, 2007, 3:49 AM
I think this is because the sense of smell is a very acute sense, very emotive that can stir many strong reactions in people. Taste also. Licking armpits is not just about smell but also about taste, and to be honest my personal preference is that I would not want to do that, no matter how clean. Yes it does sound strange that I would rather give a blow job but I guess that's just the way I like it.
Some people have fears about germs because they are OCD. This is not because they are simply being squemish but because they have a psychological condition.
I agree that licking areas which have just been deoderised is really gross also.

d
work along w a perfume addict im gonna throw up on him one day.

brokenhearted
Aug 9, 2007, 4:24 AM
boring............ this topic is so boring........! :(

Long Duck Dong
Aug 9, 2007, 5:18 AM
gee brokenhearted, this thread bored you that much that you had to post in it ???? lol wonders will never cease and people will never cease to amuse me