Why dykes hate me.

[Sapphocomplex]

For the last week or so, i have had far to much time on my hands.haha. One evening while sifting through Craigslist * its like a big online classifieds*, i came upon the personals!! muahaha!
There was a female for female section where u can post lil tid bits about yourself and then people get back to ya if they like what they see...you know what im talking about. Anyway, i come across one woman who , at the bottom of her add, says " no men, no children, no one in a relationship, AND NO BISEXUALS!!"
I laugh a lil, and continue on looking at all these interesting adds. I would say about 60% of the rest of these stated the same thing. So i end up putting up an add asking out right, how do you feel about bisexual woman? Here is what i am to them.

1."silly and immature"
2. "sick"
3. "not a real lesbian!!"....um, duh*sigh*
4. "disease ridden" wowza...these ladies are dramatic! lol
5. " just following what the mainstream tells me i should be, because men love girl on girl action!"
6. " most likely to get bored and leave any girl for a passing penis"
7." cant trust those bitches, slutty...they arnt in it for the love"


Well golly, im not feeling the Queer love here! Whats sad is that i hear the same things from groups of lesbian women i hang with. How is there such fear and discrimination within a community that stands for the opposite?
if u have preferences to strictly date people who are completely gay, then more power to ya. I support your right to a choice! Though, when you start with the names, stereo types, and fear's your just being a fucking hypocrite.

<3 Amanda

[deletetacount123]

I have on my ads I don't want anyone thats attached and no men. :)

Im not into Poly cause I want just her. All to myself... don't want to share. lol

BUT would I date a single bisexual women?? Yes I would.
What happens if she wants to date men too?? Well, then I'll let her go cause Im just not into the Poly thing.

But whatever happens, she must NEVER mention bisexual to my mother cause my mom thinks bisexuals are just confused people who don't know what they want.

Im a lesbian but I would love to date you lol :) Im not against bisexuals... they are people too. To me, being bisexual just means your not limited to gender.

Tasha

[Skater Boy]

You mean you're NOT disease ridden, Amanda? :-P

Hey, maybe you should avoid dating lesbians, and only date men and bisexual women.

Besides, anyone who isn't willing to give a hottie like you a chance just because you're Bi is clearly insane, and insane people often don't make good lovers.

Don't let 'em get to ya! :)

[shameless agitator]

Unfortunately this is all too common. The stereotype I'm surprised didn't get mentioned is that we're all cowards who just play at being gay til things get ugly then pass for straight. Unfortunately I think this is the one where all too often they have us dead to rights. It's much easier for us to pass and so a lot of us do whenever the homophobia gets particularly nasty. All we can do is show people by our own examples that we don't all fit their preconceived notions. That and if somebody really wants to pre-judge us, then fuck 'em (or not as the case may be) ; )

[Sapphocomplex]

Ya, ive gotten that from a "friend" of mine actually! her words were " at least you guys get to play normal when u want.." haha, um ya if i was a coward. I dont necessarily fit completely with either groups, but i still wouldn't change who i am. Thanx for your comments guys! lovin the support;).

[darkeyes]

I am not sure dykes hateya.. they mayb don undastand ya, or more accurately don wanna undastand ya. Not all hun. Not all by a long way for ther r many who r part of us..they know an r aware of ther tenuous hold on the respect of the greater mass of humanity, of ther tolerance an of certainly of ther undastanding. In the west we hav it easy for all the probs sexual "minorites" hav 2 face. But equally far 2 many lesbians simply suffer from the same intolerance, lack of compassion an undastanding of str8 society. They shud know betta... we r in the same boat.. the day will cum wen the worm turns an society will once again begin 2 use minorities such us us an the gay community as scapegoats. Yea an the Transgendered 2. Any they can use 2 whip up intolerance.

But for now thats in the future. For now we r makin progress an hav been for half a century or so an its up 2 us, alongside the gay an les community to make sure wen the reaction cums that the world has moved ahead 2 far to b allowed to fall 2 far in reverse an return to the shitty days of the early 20th century. We can only do that united an in undastanding.. we the LGBT community.. we encompass all sexualities who r not wholly accepted... togetha we hav hope an will make progress.. so long as the less tolerant among our community, gays dykes, bi's or ne 1 else feels that one or more parts of that community is not real..we r hamstrung an can neva make the progress as swiftly an as completely as we wud like.

I hav in the past mentioned str8s in these threads, an ther part in our community .. cos without enlistin ther support, ther undastandin, ther compassion we can neva progress, an wud not hav progressed in the last half century... I may hav lotsa comtempt for may str8s, but not for ther community as a whole, for without them we can neva get ne wer. Many r terrific luffly peeps, sum members of our site an who luff a support us, yea..an many fite our fite an stand shoulder 2 shoulder wiv us...many of us r married or partnered 2 them.. many r married an partnered 2 gays an lesbians..

Forget the fact that some, many even may hate us, loathe us an hav contempt.. we r the community really not of gays, bi's or str8s..we r the community of humanity..an togetha we r whole..without 1 part bein accepted for its own intrinsic value, for what it can contribute to the future of our species.. somehow humanity seems so much less.

So don despair babes.. stand ya corner an argue for the respect ya deserve an shud hav... debate is 1 way how we move forward, an if by havin a tiff wiv sum intolerant ole dyke ya can at least make er think.. then yas dun ya job!:female:

[the mage]

Well, the fact is that it take intelligence to be able to conceptualize.
Without that ability an individual is not capable of stepping outside their personal reality to accept the existence of yours as valid and sustainable.
Fewer that 50% of humans have that ability, it is a measure of intelligence.
You will NEVER be able to make those people see you as valid and equal to their position, what ever it is.

Don't bother trying. Find the other 50%. (and hope the morons stop breeding)

[darkeyes]

In a way ya hav a point Magie. But ya point is that we will neva b wholly accepted eva if ya follow through ya logic. Its a point that me will not an can neva accept. Half a century ago in the west, certainly in the UK an US prob 95&#37; of non gay str8 peeps disapproved of an had absolute contempt for gay an bi peeps. That figure is massively reduced in 2007 for how else do ya think we hav made the progress we hav ova the last half century??? Sum peeps r quite incapable of changin ther view bout many things, not jus attitudes 2 sexuality. But it aint them we havta worry bout..it aint them we havta expect acceptace an understanding from.. its the young, an those who r yet 2 come... the young are far more acceptin of us than ther parents, an likewise, ther children should help us move that bit forward again.. until in time..sexuality means simply nowt 2 the overwhelmin mass of humanity. Its called progress.. an progress takes time.

No doubt ther will always b shitbags who for ther own reasons will try an do us down, jus as they will try an do down the mentally ill, the poor, the underprivileged an many otha minorities, Hispanics, black, Islamic, athiest woteva... but time changes wot peeps accept an how society is. Its the future we fite for, not now, for now is wen we play our part in creatin the kinda future we wish 2 c. Ther is a long way 2 go an a lot 2 do lotsa peeps r persuadable, an many hav been an more will b..so we gettin ther... its not easy we all know that..but its our legacy 2 all those bisexuals, gay transgendered an yes str8s who r yet 2 come...

So don b so bloody downhearted, defeatist an unreal... we hav our probs as a group, we always will hav. But compared 2 the past we live in a panacea of tolerance an undastanding...

[Azrael]

I was gonna put this on the poetry thread, but I think it fits better here

'This poem can be put off no longer'
'1.You don't exist. He used to say it to my face: You don't exist.
2.You're what? What's that?
Oh.
Can I watch sometime?
Yeah, I've heard that that's trendy right now.
You're just trying to be cool. You're just trying to be politically correct.
You're a fence sitter. We're all waiting
for you to come out come down. We're all waiting for you.
Which one are you more, really? Who makes you come the most?
You just take it wherever you can get it, don't you?
We're here to talk today about everybodyexceptyou. We're working for the rights of everybodyexceptyou. The oppression of everybodyexceptyou has got to end.
Don't worry, you'll grow out of it.
But you're one of us. You can't be one of us and one of those, too.
I could never sleep with you.
I could never sleep with one of you.
I might get dumped might get thrown over for one of them might get AIDS might die might lose all my friends.
Oh, is that why you always have such a hard time coming?
Yeah, I know that some people feel that way, but why do you always have to talk about it so much?
You can't ever be monogamous/ get married/ have kids/ have a stable relationship, can you?
You're just oversexed
horny desperate confused. Why, you'd sleep with anyone, wouldn't you?
Is this your way of telling me you want to go to bed with me?
I went through that phase too. It lasted 2 minutes 2 months 6 months 2 years 10 years, but I saw the light eventually.
I feel that way too, but that doesn't make me one of you.
3. WE KNOW THAT IT IS VERY DIFFICULT. WE KNOW EXACTLY HOW YOU FEEL. WE CAN HELP YOU. JUST STEP OVER HERE TO THIS NICE LITTLE BOX WE HAVE FOR YOU. THAT'S IT, STEP INSIDE. COZY, ISN'T IT? THERE NOW, WE'LL JUST PUT ON THIS LID NICE AND TIGHT. IF YOU BREATHE SHALLOWLY, THERE SHOULD BE JUST ENOUGH AIR TO LIVE ON.
NOW, DOESN'T THAT FEEL BETTER?
4. and there is always that morning
fourteen in foster city,
I woke up from what was not a dream
in which the two of you had taught me the meaning of a new word
epilogue1 "WE NEED TO HAVE THIS MEETING
AT THIS TREE
AIN' EVEN BEEN
PLANTED
YET"
--Susan Carlton
From 'Bi any Other Name'
You NEED to own this book.

[shameless agitator]

WOW! I'm buying that book today! Thanks Az

[leelee62]

i've just been dumped by a lesbian, she decided she could'nt handle me being bi and married, feeling hurt and used xx

[Skater Boy]

Thats a good poem. And very appropriate. I found it easy to understand, and seemed relate to most of the things, even though I haven't directly experienced some of them. Sounds like a book worth buying...