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nick3635
Nov 11, 2007, 10:56 PM
Why is it so hard for single males, who are respectable and understand the dynamic and issues with a three way relationship find it so hard to find a couple that would like another man?

xxxcjs
Nov 11, 2007, 11:23 PM
Good question . I have been trying to find an awnser to that for about a year now.

Lorcan
Nov 12, 2007, 12:08 AM
being a couple we would like another man..... IF you're the right man and we all have chemistry and we all get along.

But, you see, with a couple there are only two relationships: (me with him) and (him with me). With a triad there are six relationships: (me with him) and (him with me) and (you with me) and (me with you) and (you with him) and (him with you).

You can see how it's much easier to get two relationships compatible than 6.

FalconAngel
Nov 12, 2007, 12:23 AM
Lorcan is right about the chemistry thing being important. Also, there are a lot of respectable single guys out there, however that only want a one time thing, which some couples are looking for, but not the majority.

Also, there is the area of tastes in men. Not all couples like the same kind of men, so there has to be a compromise that both halves of the couple are willing to give on.

And then, there is the mentioned relationship variables of being in a triadic experience or relationship.

And if that isn't enough, think about all of the single guys that are looking for couples that fit the tastes of the single guy looking. That combined with what the couples are seeking can really cock up anyone's chances of finding the couple that they seek.

Difficult at best; impossible at worst.

So if you think it's hard to find the right couple, try being a couple seeking the right guy. We have more variables to consider with this than most single guys even consider, let alone have on themselves.

nick3635
Nov 12, 2007, 4:18 AM
I have no doubt on the variables involved with a couple ... you are in a situation of pleasing two people ... and there is a conception that most guys out there that are looking full of shit and not honest ... I have no doubt that the majority of them are this way ... so I might have answered my own question on this post ...guys who are sincere and honest about what they are looking for are just screwed :-)

saturnmoon
Nov 12, 2007, 5:04 PM
! Realy! hmm wow. Plus that single guy have to have the time to nurture that realtionship. It is not the couple that need the single guy it is the single guy that needs to be honest.

welickit
Nov 12, 2007, 8:18 PM
And then there are those "HONEST" :bipride::bipride::bipride: guys with an empty profile that we all ignore.

Skater Boy
Nov 12, 2007, 8:56 PM
! Realy! hmm wow. Plus that single guy have to have the time to nurture that realtionship. It is not the couple that need the single guy it is the single guy that needs to be honest.

Not necessarily. If the couple is looking to form a triad (at least temporarily) then they need a third person as much as the third person needs them. Its a mutually favorable exchange. If they AREN'T looking to form a triad, then they will probably have stated so from the start and can be ruled out. IMO its just harder to please TWO people at once, than it is to please one single person, hence the couple have to be more selective.

Plus, the fact that there's a lot of supposedly bisexual women in relationships with men who, as a couple, exclusively seek WOMEN to form their triads, probably doesn't help the single men much.

:2cents:

Iowason
Nov 12, 2007, 9:17 PM
This is another perfect example of what we are going through. We have a male friend that we have been with many times now, but he isn't bi. He plays along and I have finished him off once and touch him sometimes, but he prefers the kind of three was where the guys don't touch each other.

The nice couples that are looking for nice guys to join them are out there (including us ;), but I can see why we are a limited few. Not many men can stand to see their wife with another man... OR the wife can't stand to have another man touch her besides her husband. There are many factors that go into making a good MMF relationship. I couldn't really see having a "one night stand" with an anonymous partner joining us. It takes too much time and effort to get to know someone well enough... but once you do it is worth every second!

:bipride:

saturnmoon
Nov 12, 2007, 9:52 PM
Not necessarily. If the couple is looking to form a triad (at least temporarily) then they need a third person as much as the third person needs them. Its a mutually favorable exchange. If they AREN'T looking to form a triad, then they will probably have stated so from the start and can be ruled out. IMO its just harder to please TWO people at once, than it is to please one single person, hence the couple have to be more selective.

Plus, the fact that there's a lot of supposedly bisexual women in relationships with men who, as a couple, exclusively seek WOMEN to form their triads, probably doesn't help the single men much.

:2cents:

Your quote ". . . couple looking to form a triad . . ." Temporarily? THIS is where the problems start! Your quote "If they AREN'T looking to form a triad, then they will probably have stated so from the start and can be ruled out." This is where honesty comes in. They just want to come and go, and then you become another piece in their collection. He's not there to please two people. He's there to stay with them to commit to them, as the couple to him, and stay for a long time. But the majority love the variety.

Skater Boy
Nov 12, 2007, 10:07 PM
Your quote ". . . couple looking to form a triad . . ." Temporarily? THIS is where the problems start! Your quote "If they AREN'T looking to form a triad, then they will probably have stated so from the start and can be ruled out." This is where honesty comes in. They just want to come and go, and then you become another piece in their collection. He's not there to please two people. He's there to stay with them to commit to them, as the couple to him, and stay for a long time. But the majority love the variety.

So you're suggesting that single men only want a short-term sexual gratification? A generalization, for sure, but perhaps true in some cases- which is why its always important to specifiy what each party is looking for before entering into any contractual relationship. And there's no law that says that ALL couples that seek a third person to form a triad are doing so for the long-term. If everyone is honest and communicative from the start, there should be no problems.

DiamondDog
Nov 12, 2007, 10:59 PM
This is another perfect example of what we are going through. We have a male friend that we have been with many times now, but he isn't bi. He plays along and I have finished him off once and touch him sometimes, but he prefers the kind of three was where the guys don't touch each other.

The nice couples that are looking for nice guys to join them are out there (including us ;), but I can see why we are a limited few. Not many men can stand to see their wife with another man... OR the wife can't stand to have another man touch her besides her husband. There are many factors that go into making a good MMF relationship. I couldn't really see having a "one night stand" with an anonymous partner joining us. It takes too much time and effort to get to know someone well enough... but once you do it is worth every second!

:bipride:

If that guy has had sex with another man, even in the course of a 3 way he's not hetero.

I wouldn't want to have sex or a relationship with someone that's in such denial like that guy is.

indenver_indenver
Nov 13, 2007, 8:20 AM
Actually, I am a married bi male looking for the right guy to join me and my wife. We have hosted several guys over the years and she has watched my give oral to the guy and found it very sexy. She never has done more than guide the guy's cock into my mouth. Lately, she has told me that if Bob ever came back, she would like to have him make love to her while I lick them where they are joined. Bob was one of my guests who had to move away for work.

Well, for the past 5 years I have been searching for another Bob. The guys always ask, "Will she participate?" I reply, "It's all up to you. If you take the time to get to know her so she trusts you, she MAY." That's not good enough for them. They want a sure thing. Like I'm a pimp and they are a john. It ends there. So, I keep looking. "Bob! Where are you?"

open2both
Nov 13, 2007, 6:05 PM
EXACTLY!!!

saturnmoon
Nov 13, 2007, 7:56 PM
Actually, I am a married bi male looking for the right guy to join me and my wife. We have hosted several guys over the years and she has watched my give oral to the guy and found it very sexy. She never has done more than guide the guy's cock into my mouth. Lately, she has told me that if Bob ever came back, she would like to have him make love to her while I lick them where they are joined. Bob was one of my guests who had to move away for work.

Well, for the past 5 years I have been searching for another Bob. The guys always ask, "Will she participate?" I reply, "It's all up to you. If you take the time to get to know her so she trusts you, she MAY." That's not good enough for them. They want a sure thing. Like I'm a pimp and they are a john. It ends there. So, I keep looking. "Bob! Where are you?"

You could not say it better ! EXACTLY ! WOW Hope the person who started this thread reads this, and understands it.

FalconAngel
Nov 14, 2007, 12:02 AM
And then there are those "HONEST" :bipride::bipride::bipride: guys with an empty profile that we all ignore.

Very true.
If you have a blank or near blank profile, then no matter how nice and honest you are, most people, single or couple, will not even give you a second glance.

To get someone's attention on the web, you need a profile that has as much as possible to let people know what you are about and what your interests are.
A full profile is a whole lot harder to ignore than a blank one.

mobicpl69
Dec 24, 2007, 10:28 AM
We feel that the lifestyle as with any relationship is all about choices. Of course we are open to all genders of bisexual people. We are not super picky but know what we like. So things like cock size, cut or uncut, and many other factors are involved. But once again these are the choices of what we want.

The problems that we have found with single bisexual males are:

1. They think you are sitting at the computer waiting for them to write. If you do not write back right away they can get very rude.

2. Empty profiles and no pictures. Let's get real guys, couples can receive a lot of emails from single guys. So if your profile is empty and has no photos why should you be picked over the next guy?

3. One rule that we have when playing with a single guy is that the men must have sex first and she will join in when she is ready. Most guys do not like that concept.

4. Although we always play together, the single bisexual guy is more for him than her. And that is were the single guy's attention should be.

5. The most important item goes back to choices. We want a single male that is 100% bisexual. Almost gay. So if a single guy writes and says that he will only do oral, or doesn't like kissing men, or has never done it before, why would we want him instead of a male that is totally bi?

Now we are not saying that this all applies to all of you single guys out there. But if you want to play with us (and most bi couples like us) you just need to follow the simple rules. Be REAL, Be HONEST, and BE BISEXUAL!

bi42guy1958
Dec 24, 2007, 12:46 PM
The problems that we have found with single bisexual males are:

1. They think you are sitting at the computer waiting for them to write. If you do not write back right away they can get very rude.

2. Empty profiles and no pictures. Let's get real guys, couples can receive a lot of emails from single guys. So if your profile is empty and has no photos why should you be picked over the next guy?

3. One rule that we have when playing with a single guy is that the men must have sex first and she will join in when she is ready. Most guys do not like that concept.

4. Although we always play together, the single bisexual guy is more for him than her. And that is were the single guy's attention should be.

5. The most important item goes back to choices. We want a single male that is 100% bisexual. Almost gay. So if a single guy writes and says that he will only do oral, or doesn't like kissing men, or has never done it before, why would we want him instead of a male that is totally bi?

Now we are not saying that this all applies to all of you single guys out there. But if you want to play with us (and most bi couples like us) you just need to follow the simple rules. Be REAL, Be HONEST, and BE BISEXUAL!

I;m now a single guy, but was once a couple in this situation. And I agree with all these "rules" until you get to number 5. I'm one of those that does'nt kiss or show affection to guys. TO ME, kissing andhugging is a form of affection. And as I've always said bisexual to me is of a SEXUAL nature toward both sexes. So to tun a guy down because he does'nt care to kiss another guy might be losing out on a good thing. Of course I understand we are all different, so to each his/her own.

rnt0705
Dec 24, 2007, 2:48 PM
Not many men can stand to see their wife with another man... OR the wife can't stand to have another man touch her besides her husband.

:bipride:

This is exactly where we are at. Nor do I want to touch another woman. Since I /we havent had our first experience yet, 1 night stand? regular 3rd person? Dont know yet. A regular friend would be nice. Thats if we are both in agreement about him, or her. A bi sexual couple would be the best situation.

welickit
Dec 24, 2007, 8:25 PM
Jump on the chat room here sometime and you will find rude & crude guys who think you are here to serve their needs or fantasies. We have a long ignore list.

someotherguy
Dec 24, 2007, 9:44 PM
There are about 200,000,000 single men wanting each of the available couples interested in single men. That is stiff competition. Stiff...a joke is born.

IanGray
Dec 25, 2007, 2:41 PM
I am single, male and bisexual and find a mmf threesome appealing and that includes kissing a man. However, I am still new to all this and working on my profile. Anyway, it is a continuous learning process which takes patience and persistence. Is it easier for a couple to accommodate singles than a single person seeking a single person either male or female? This would heighten my interest in a threesome.

open4bizness
Dec 25, 2007, 3:31 PM
being a couple we would like another man..... IF you're the right man and we all have chemistry and we all get along.

But, you see, with a couple there are only two relationships: (me with him) and (him with me). With a triad there are six relationships: (me with him) and (him with me) and (you with me) and (me with you) and (you with him) and (him with you).

You can see how it's much easier to get two relationships compatible than 6.

LOL not quite.

(you with me) and (me with you) are the same relationship.
(you with him) and (him with you) are the same relationship.

open2both
Dec 25, 2007, 4:23 PM
I share your FRUSTRATION!