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the mage
Nov 19, 2007, 9:11 AM
An interesting point about reason.
You are expected to have it.
It is in a nut shell the legal requirement of common sense.

For example Ontario case law has defined this;
If a man goes to a bathhouse and has unsafe sex with a dozen men then goes home and fuck his wife and give her an AIDS hs is guilty of Aggrevated sexual assault even if he did not know he had it.
Common sense dictated to that man that he was playing unsafely.
He then spread it without knowing. It does not matter. The first made the second a moral and legal crime.

Do not be guilty of not knowing, it can KILL you.
For every diagnosed case of HIV there are 2 that are not known, maybe more.
One of every 350 people in the US has HIV, many more have STI's. The very people who play have increased concentrations of spreading disease.

The very men who play around are the one who have this and all STI's in greater numbers that the general population. They do not get tested. They do not tell their women.
It is the women who suffer.
I personally know a Lady with HIV who is ill and suffering in silence totally alone.
Unlike so many thousands of gay lonely men who have a community to reach out to for support the women die ALONE. Their community almost universally shuns them. They them selves have shunned in the past often having come from other countries, and now they have it. They will die before any one in their life knows they are ill. They are terrified. they have lost, life, love and for many their GOD is gone too.

The misery, the poverty, are profound.

In Africa HIV is DEATH.
In North America HIV is poverty.
It IS spreading

Do NOT let, my, or any ones ramblings stop you from life, living or playing, but for fuck sake play safely, USE CONDOMS.

DO NOT LIE TO YOUR SPOUSE
Do your own research too.

Thers TONS, it takes second to find info. Educate yourself.
Don't be a pig..

HighEnergy
Nov 19, 2007, 10:17 AM
Good point, Mage. Thank you for being concise. ;)

Polyurethane transmits heat and has no smell/taste and retains it's shape better, thus not leaving you with that attacked by a cold grocery sack feeling. :tongue:

DiamondDog
Nov 19, 2007, 5:09 PM
What about het women who unknowingly or knowingly have HIV and who give it to men? This also happens and it does happen a lot.

It's horrible when anyone gets this disease but it's not any "easier" for bi/gay men than it is for women. Yes there are support groups for women who have HIV and there are mixed groups for men and women.

Who I really feel for are the kids who are/were born HIV+.

shameless agitator
Nov 19, 2007, 6:54 PM
Thanks Mage. I think this is something we all need to be reminded of periodically.

DiamondDog
Nov 19, 2007, 7:36 PM
Thanks Mage. I think this is something we all need to be reminded of periodically.

Yeah but flaming people, threatening them with violence, posting conspiracy theory articles about HIV and cold/flu vaccines, throwing a tantrum and telling people that they're a fucking idiot or worse since they don't agree with the two decade outdated information presented, and rambling on with biphobic stereotypes and wrong health information is not the way to do it. :rolleyes:

It's 2007, most people know how not to get HIV and how to prevent getting it from a partner/partners. Free factual information is available online from medical professionals and people can always ask their doctor or a doctor or go to a HIV testing center or an STD testing clinic and get tested for free and get information for free instead of relying on posts made by strangers on the internet.

the mage
Nov 20, 2007, 9:32 AM
It is the very insistence on diamond dog part that Bi's are somehow above the fray and not in FACT currently the primary source of the spread of HIV to women that has led to this dog fight.
I won't get into how a person asks for source info them poo poo's it without thought.
Thats real thinking power.

Yessirree U.N.Aids, a world body, printed that stuff just for me...

I normally do not stoop to this crap but that foolish little boy is dangerous in his rantings.

His Holmes'ian attempts to search me out would be laughed at even by the bumbling Lestrade and they are not needed.
My violent rant was deserved in response to his constant attempt to belittle my previous postings on matters of import.
Look for yourself.

You as a public would do well to look at the facts as I have in response to events in life.
Be ware of pigs that attempt to drag you down sometime they play the game well but like so many misread postings mine was reffering to something else.
The "Getting a rise out of people" thing from yahoo was in there as part of it.
Funny that the double entendre was of that line has been totally missed by the context of the rantings. I was active on gay site at the time.

Any way... enough of this crap I have a real posting to make ...