do girls find bisexual men a turn on?

[jay_1981]

so girls what do u think?

guys whats your experiance with this?

[DiamondDog]

Some women do, some women think it's disgusting.

Honestly I don't care since I don't get involved with heterosexual women.

[TaylorMade]

so girls what do u think?

guys whats your experiance with this?

Not every bi guy turns me on. . .for starters. . .I like traditionally masculine guys for the most part... but I love them when they are flexible enough to do surprising things like wearing kilts, toenail polish, or eyeliner.

But most women (bi AND straight) are not into bisexual men due to negative perceptions, fear of disease, the "sharing" issue, etc.

*Taylor*

[anne27]

This woman does. I'm married to one. From my experience, bi men tend to be more open and interesting lovers. The ones I know aren't as repressed as heterosexual men and tend to be more fun in bed.:2cents:

[jazz5]

Actually had this conversation this week with the wife of the couple that invited me for the weekend. She does not find M/M sex erotic BUT knows her husband likes to suck a cock as well as her. She said she enjoys watching him have fun and also likes to help him. She loved seeing me suck on him also.

Frankly a bit of erotic for me the third wheel. Her more of a sharing thing!

[HighEnergy]

My former partner was bi. I appreciated his openness and sense of play in bed. I enjoyed watching him man watching when we were out or watching movies, etc. I also cannot tolerate homophobia, so I'm hanging out here for the community and traditional dating sites are full of vanilla homophobes.

[bi42guy1958]

Being a bimale, from my expeirence as a whole of female population, NO! I've been bi sice I was 13 or 14, and through the years have had quite a few relationships, I've had a wide wariety of reactions. Most being negative. Some said they were OK with it but later decided that they really were not. Some would not hear of it, and others got quite turned on by it.

[Promising Galahad]

My ex girlfriend said to some friends of mine recently that bisexual men make the best boyfriends. Not sure who the other(s) bi men she was talking about, but it made me feel good. My current girlfriend is VERY curious and seems to be into guys kissing. Its awesome dating a girl for months and thinking how shy and quiet she is. Then when the time comes and you sleep together for the first time you discover this wild animal you never knew was there.Its a real turn on. I think everyone is different and if theres a girl you like its up to you to show her what kind of bisexual guy you are. Only then will she decide.

[SuchaBadDog1]

My ex girlfriend said to some friends of mine recently that bisexual men make the best boyfriends. Not sure who the other(s) bi men she was talking about, but it made me feel good. My current girlfriend is VERY curious and seems to be into guys kissing. Its awesome dating a girl for months and thinking how shy and quiet she is. Then when the time comes and you sleep together for the first time you discover this wild animal you never knew was there.Its a real turn on. I think everyone is different and if theres a girl you like its up to you to show her what kind of bisexual guy you are. Only then will she decide.

Well said. Perceptions aren't fixed in stone, particularly in areas where there are so many misconceptions. We control the confidence and security we project.

[Skater Boy]

But most women (bi AND straight) are not into bisexual men due to negative perceptions, fear of disease, the "sharing" issue, etc.


Unfortunately, I have to agree with Taylor. At least when it comes to straight women. In my own personal experience, the vast majority of straight females that I've met take great pride in the fact that their boyfriends (and potential boyfriends) are distinctly heterosexual. I guess part of it is the stigma associated with male homosexuality, and part of it is just because the very concept of a blatantly heterosexual male is what turns them on. I'd go as far as to say that some of them even get turned OFF by the concept of their boyfriend being capable of having sex with another man.

Some BISEXUAL females are probably a bit more open-minded. If only because they can relate to the scenario, and understand that it would be hypocritical of them to be prejudiced in this way. But I fear that even amongst some bisexual women, there is still a preference for a man that hetero. Or at very least obviously masculine and straight-acting.

Alas, it would seem that, out of every sexual group, the bisexual male is worst off.

[Skater Boy]

Y'know what... in retrospect there may be some hope:

I remember a while back when I was working part-time at a designer boutique, the issue of homosexuality (or rather bisexuality) was casually raised in my presence. Two young, heterosexual women (who also happened to work there) started talking about Robbie Williams (the English pop star). One stated that Robbie was, allegedly, bisexual. to which the other replied that that was "disgusting". To which the first then responded that "she didn't mind, because Robbie was good looking".

So... the moral of the story is...

Some straight women are more tolerant of bisexual men if they conform to their aesthetic ideals.

[gfofbiguy]

I'm a str8 woman. My b/f is bisexual. He told me he was bisexual before we met, so I would have an "out" of not meeting him...so I guess more women than not do not find bisexual men a turn-on. However, for myself, I find it a definite turn-on:bigrin: I guess I don't understand that mentality - of thinking it's "gross" or "disgusting"...anymore than thinking that someone's favorite color is "gross" or "disgusting", as it's not something a person chooses to be anymore than I "choose" to be str8 - I just am str8...he just is bi.

Now with the "sharing" part, we haven't come across that yet in our relationship, as he's not "looking" for anyone. We have had long discussions about it, but have decided to cross that bridge if and when we come to it.

[ziggybabie]

I may be the only one who thinks this, but I think our media has more than a bit to do with this. Society in general is full of trendwhores and many people are influenced by trends pushed by the media. Even people's thinking and values in their early formative years is influenced by propaganda amd subconscious messages and imagery.

Where am I going with this? The mainstream straight male dominated media fetishizes lesbianism and female bisexuality and simultaneously makes every instance of male homosexuality to be a campy joke. And there are no male bisexuals. Either gay (a joke stereotype) or straight ("normal"). As it makes you "less manly" or some junk to be a man and be "into men". How antiquated. :rolleyes:

Of course, just because female bisexuality is fetishized in every other beer commercial or TV program, doesn't mean they truly respect bisexual women. They just don't care because women are little more than objects to these fucktards. (Fucktards.....just rolls off the tongue, doesn't it?) The "bi gal" stereotype pushed is about being a trendy bimbo who just kisses girls to get the attention of some chauvinistic asshole who often times doesn't respect her.

What I don't get is how SOME trendier type women, who identify as bisexual, can be against the idea of dating a bi male at least in large part, because they're influenced by the same media that often shits on them, too.

[Skater Boy]

I may be the only one who thinks this, but I think our media has more than a bit to do with this. Society in general is full of trendwhores and many people are influenced by trends pushed by the media. Even people's thinking and values in their early formative years is influenced by propaganda amd subconscious messages and imagery.

Where am I going with this? The mainstream straight male dominated media fetishizes lesbianism and female bisexuality and simultaneously makes every instance of male homosexuality to be a campy joke. And there are no male bisexuals. Either gay (a joke stereotype) or straight ("normal"). As it makes you "less manly" or some junk to be a man and be "into men". How antiquated. :rolleyes:

Of course, just because female bisexuality is fetishized in every other beer commercial or TV program, doesn't mean they truly respect bisexual women. They just don't care because women are little more than objects to these fucktards. (Fucktards.....just rolls off the tongue, doesn't it?) The "bi gal" stereotype pushed is about being a trendy bimbo who just kisses girls to get the attention of some chauvinistic asshole who often times doesn't respect her.

What I don't get is how SOME trendier type women, who identify as bisexual, can be against the idea of dating a bi male at least in large part, because they're influenced by the same media that often shits on them, too.

No, you're not the only person who thinks this- I agree. But its not JUST the media who are responsible for this... its also the people who independently subscribe to and promote these ideologies casually on a daily basis.

DiamondDog seems to disagree with my sentiments that we live in a Heterosexual Patriarchy, but I think that the dominant ideologies of our society are strongly biased and very pervasive.

[OcalaCouple683]

Its a major turn on to me! Ever since my husband opened up to me about him being bisexual- we have had an amazing relationship, and not just in bed!! We are just so much more open with eachother and feel we can totally be ourselves. I am also bisexual so its nice to know he knows how I feel and the desires I have... Not only that but I am SOOOO turned on seeing and imagining him with another guy :tongue::cool::bigrin:

[ziggybabie]

No, you're not the only person who thinks this- I agree. But its not JUST the media who are responsible for this... its also the people who independently subscribe to and promote these ideologies casually on a daily basis.

DiamondDog seems to disagree with my sentiments that we live in a Heterosexual Patriarchy, but I think that the dominant ideologies of our society are strongly biased and very pervasive.

I know it's not just the media. I call those "sheeple".

[FerociousFeline]

I'm not sure if this is being sexist......


But, it's been my experience that this issue seems to depend on the relative intelligence of the people I have talked to about it.

The people who are all about pushing the evolution of their own spirit and consciousness are the same ones who DO NOT cast the idea of what it is to "Be MALE" into this mold wherein men can not be with other men.

The people who cannot separate the concept that the IDEA of being Male has little or nothing to do with the common perception of masculinity or what it means to live in or up to a ROLE that men have traditionally been caged in are usually the ones who find it "sick" or "disgusting" or "less manly" for men to be with other men.

I think this is directly why you see much less of that kind of dogmatic shit in Europe. Europeans have traditionally not subscribed to the "He-man" role for men and therefor it isn't such a complete revolting factor when they have their ideal man with another man.

Women who are smart enough to realize that traditional roles for men are EXTREMELY antiquated and prefer their men to be somewhat modern are the first ones to embrace the idea of a NEW type of masculinity. Because when it's all said and done with, the argument appears to be really about, "What is masculine?". In the old world, part of being "masculine" MEANS only having sex with women. Hopefully, in the new world, being masculine means having the balls to fuck whoever you want to and having the balls necessary to tell the ignorant antiquated fucktards to step the hell off, if they don't like it.

Ultimately though, I do believe that the key to changing public perception about bisexual men, lies with women. When enough women can realize that a bi man can be JUST as "masculine" as any het man, and that Bi men are often CLEANER men, than traditional het men, (re disease promiscuity etc)
Only then will the public connotation of being a bi man change.

:2cents:

FF

[LusciousLounge]

As long as I can guarantee the guy is being safe and is not transferring diseases to me, it's a TOTAL turnon :tong: I've identified with heterosexuality for a really long time and am now DEFINITELY identifying as bisexual so I can say that from both perspectives in my OWN OPINION.

I think the reason I would like it is because:
1. I think two guys kissing is hot :bigrin: ... and am semi-into mmf as an option

2. I think sexuality and affection is wonderful, regardless of the genders

3. I've never had a dating/sexual experience with a bisexual guy, and frankly, the straight guys I've dated have all been really understanding and patient sexually, so I'm not speaking from an actual past experience.. BUT, I would hope/expect that the bisexual guy is more sexually understanding/emotional/open/sensitive than a straight guy.. I know this isn't always the case, but so far the bisexual guys I've met/talked to tend to be better overall compared to straight guys (who often-but-not-always tend to be immature/close-minded/one-track-mind/a$$holes/etc regarding sexual experiences)

4. the homophobic mentality that many straight guys have is NOT hot, and I would be more comfortable with someone who is not only more open about sexuality IN GENERAL, but is also not just going to consider me (as a bisexual woman) a porn fantasy

[the mage]

I may be the only one who thinks this, but I think our media has more than a bit to do with this. Society in general is full of trendwhores and many people are influenced by trends pushed by the media. Even people's thinking and values in their early formative years is influenced by propaganda amd subconscious messages and imagery.

Where am I going with this? The mainstream straight male dominated media fetishizes lesbianism and female bisexuality and simultaneously makes every instance of male homosexuality to be a campy joke. And there are no male bisexuals. Either gay (a joke stereotype) or straight ("normal"). As it makes you "less manly" or some junk to be a man and be "into men". How antiquated. :rolleyes:

Of course, just because female bisexuality is fetishized in every other beer commercial or TV program, doesn't mean they truly respect bisexual women. They just don't care because women are little more than objects to these fucktards. (Fucktards.....just rolls off the tongue, doesn't it?) The "bi gal" stereotype pushed is about being a trendy bimbo who just kisses girls to get the attention of some chauvinistic asshole who often times doesn't respect her.

What I don't get is how SOME trendier type women, who identify as bisexual, can be against the idea of dating a bi male at least in large part, because they're influenced by the same media that often shits on them, too.

......................I agree with you and would add that it is exploitation of traditional roles of dom/sub in society.
Media exploit the physically submissive nature of the female readily.
Men reject offhand the thought of submission in our society, so homosexual male sex is frowned on.

Sad really. cause bottoms have fun too....;)

[diB4u]

Y'know what... in retrospect there may be some hope:

I remember a while back when I was working part-time at a designer boutique, the issue of homosexuality (or rather bisexuality) was casually raised in my presence. Two young, heterosexual women (who also happened to work there) started talking about Robbie Williams (the English pop star). One stated that Robbie was, allegedly, bisexual. to which the other replied that that was "disgusting". To which the first then responded that "she didn't mind, because Robbie was good looking".

So... the moral of the story is...

Some straight women are more tolerant of bisexual men if they conform to their aesthetic ideals.



Hmmm, well I wouldn't mind seeing Robbie Williams Frottaging lets say *cough* another favourite star of mine say George Eads... Hmmm, they can suck, lick, frottage, exchange as much bodily fluids as they please...

I like bisexual men and gay men, but not all, it's the person that counts. Of course if your talking sexually just like a straight man you need to practice safe sex. I may not have done totally but that was a different situation.

( i know i know) But getting back on topic, watching two men even kiss is lovely. In fact this morning before my CSI dvd I watched some of my porn that I downloaded. Gay sex rock. GAy men/Bi men Mmmmmmmmm

[TaylorMade]

I'm not sure if this is being sexist......


But, it's been my experience that this issue seems to depend on the relative intelligence of the people I have talked to about it.

The people who are all about pushing the evolution of their own spirit and consciousness are the same ones who DO NOT cast the idea of what it is to "Be MALE" into this mold wherein men can not be with other men.

The people who cannot separate the concept that the IDEA of being Male has little or nothing to do with the common perception of masculinity or what it means to live in or up to a ROLE that men have traditionally been caged in are usually the ones who find it "sick" or "disgusting" or "less manly" for men to be with other men.

I think this is directly why you see much less of that kind of dogmatic shit in Europe. Europeans have traditionally not subscribed to the "He-man" role for men and therefor it isn't such a complete revolting factor when they have their ideal man with another man.

Women who are smart enough to realize that traditional roles for men are EXTREMELY antiquated and prefer their men to be somewhat modern are the first ones to embrace the idea of a NEW type of masculinity. Because when it's all said and done with, the argument appears to be really about, "What is masculine?". In the old world, part of being "masculine" MEANS only having sex with women. Hopefully, in the new world, being masculine means having the balls to fuck whoever you want to and having the balls necessary to tell the ignorant antiquated fucktards to step the hell off, if they don't like it.

:2cents:

FF

I disagree heartily. . . My path through being aroused by two men together cut STRAIGHT through the path of traditional manhood: sports, warriors, male bonding, tough guys, et al. My first fantasies of a strap on involved an American Football player. My first MMF fantasies involved me walking in on two military dudes.

I like traditional manhood and I like bisexual men, It is NOT required to think the two are mutually exclusive.

*Taylor*

[DiamondDog]

I'm not sure if this is being sexist......


But, it's been my experience that this issue seems to depend on the relative intelligence of the people I have talked to about it.

The people who are all about pushing the evolution of their own spirit and consciousness are the same ones who DO NOT cast the idea of what it is to "Be MALE" into this mold wherein men can not be with other men.

The people who cannot separate the concept that the IDEA of being Male has little or nothing to do with the common perception of masculinity or what it means to live in or up to a ROLE that men have traditionally been caged in are usually the ones who find it "sick" or "disgusting" or "less manly" for men to be with other men.

I think this is directly why you see much less of that kind of dogmatic shit in Europe. Europeans have traditionally not subscribed to the "He-man" role for men and therefor it isn't such a complete revolting factor when they have their ideal man with another man.

Women who are smart enough to realize that traditional roles for men are EXTREMELY antiquated and prefer their men to be somewhat modern are the first ones to embrace the idea of a NEW type of masculinity. Because when it's all said and done with, the argument appears to be really about, "What is masculine?". In the old world, part of being "masculine" MEANS only having sex with women. Hopefully, in the new world, being masculine means having the balls to fuck whoever you want to and having the balls necessary to tell the ignorant antiquated fucktards to step the hell off, if they don't like it.

Ultimately though, I do believe that the key to changing public perception about bisexual men, lies with women. When enough women can realize that a bi man can be JUST as "masculine" as any het man, and that Bi men are often CLEANER men, than traditional het men, (re disease promiscuity etc)
Only then will the public connotation of being a bi man change.

:2cents:

FF

blame centuries of bullshit for all of that.

Western society is all like that when it comes to homophobia/sex and gender roles, it doesn't matter if it's in a European or North American country.

Also who is to say that anal sex, male submission, being a bottom/passive for anal sex are all even actually needed for same gender sex, erotic explorations of men's bodies, and are even that closely linked to it.

Just because you're a hardcore bottom and only like to get fucked by men or are a submissive cocoksucker who swallows it doesn't mean you should apply your own likes to everyone else that has sex with men.

[venusSlade]

Okay, here's my first post. I have debated whether to start my own thread with a similar question, but this seems as good a place and time as any to share my situation, feelings and thoughts. Maybe later on I'll go ahead and start a thread, but I feel that my story fits in with this question.

I'm female and must be extremely "straight", as women friends as well as strangers have hit on me and it just does nothing for me. (I usually say with a smile, "Sorry, but you're barking up the wrong bush . . . ")


As for males, I was only interested in boys when I was younger, and then men when I came of age. Out of all the men I have met and dated, I have only ever been knock-down-drag-out attracted to two. It's that heated feeling all over, that kind that makes you wet (or hard, depending on who's reading) when you're even just thinking about that certain person in a passing manner. And it's THAT PERSON, not just because you're thinking about sex or ovulating or whatnot.

The first time was about 12 years ago, and I never thought it would happen again but it did, last year. And the absolutely strange thing, when this man I'm dating (let's call him Slade, the second half of my nickname) finally confided to me last month, is that both men previously engaged in sexual activities with other men before dating me. Whodathunkit? A woman who is only attracted to men, and only then to two men in particular, and both have also liked to touch other men?!

When Slade told me, which he would not have were he not considering marriage, it was as if the last piece of the puzzle had been put in place. Both of them had been inappropriately touched by other males at an impressionable young age, and both disliked the feelings and habits that created in them.

As for the first man, he was so entrenched in his ways and had so many emotional issues I felt I could not longer stay in the situation and be of any help to him, or even to myself if I tried to help him. Slade is different in that he dislikes his compulsion to go sit in alternative bars and have men come up to buy him drinks and tell him he's "cute". In his own words, he has had "no contact" (which I assume means touching?) with any other man for a couple of years.

As for the original question, "Do girls find bisexual men a turn-on?", I would have to say no in the context it's being asked. Knowing that a man is or may be "bi" has nothing to do with sexual chemistry, mental compatibility, and good communication in a relationship. Those to me in high levels turn me on. Do I like to read steamy things about guys touching each other when I'm alone and, um, entertaining myself? Sometimes. But it's a very shallow type of turn-on.

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

I dont know about other women, but it IS to me! There's just something about watching two men together...those who are free and confidant enough in their sexuality to be able to "Cut Loose" and have fun with each other..:}
(Is it gettin' warm in here??) lol
Cat

[gfofbiguy]

I dont know about other women, but it IS to me! There's just something about watching two men together...those who are free and confidant enough in their sexuality to be able to "Cut Loose" and have fun with each other..:}
(Is it gettin' warm in here??) lol
Cat

Whoooo! *fans self*:tongue:

[brunette]

Yes, please.

I love gay/bi porn. Some of my best friends are gay/bi guys. At the same time though, like Taylor, I'm more attracted to the idea of masculinity than femininity (in men).

I know a lot of women that agree, both straight and bi. I even know a few lesbians who have told me they appreciate gay/bi men...

[ziggybabie]

......................I agree with you and would add that it is exploitation of traditional roles of dom/sub in society.
Media exploit the physically submissive nature of the female readily.
Men reject offhand the thought of submission in our society, so homosexual male sex is frowned on.

Sad really. cause bottoms have fun too....;)

Yeah. What's funny is that a large part of my fantasies involve those sub/dom roles. I mean I like being dominated by tops, or strap-on women or dominating a woman. No matter how much trashtalking, spitting, hairpulling, degrading or whatever, though....after the acts....it's just sex. To be taken lightly. NOT that serious. lol.

Technically, a guy letting a woman get on top is submissive, also, as is getting on his knees to eat her out. BUT, he sees neither of these as a threat, because he's still in control. What's the difference? If I didn't WANT to be in any scenario, I still control that. If I don't want to be fucked by a guy, I don't let him. If I'm TRULY offended by something someone does or they are TOO rough, once again, I'm in control. Well, both or all parties are in control, but you know what I mean.

Like I said, some of my earliest fantasies involving WOMEN were submissive as hell. Like being raped and drained of my blood by vampire lesbians. How many completely straight homophobes fantasize about being raped by women.....even the ones who won't admit it? The dom/sub roles in our society are interesting, to say the least.

[Damien]

Y'know what... in retrospect there may be some hope:

I remember a while back when I was working part-time at a designer boutique, the issue of homosexuality (or rather bisexuality) was casually raised in my presence. Two young, heterosexual women (who also happened to work there) started talking about Robbie Williams (the English pop star). One stated that Robbie was, allegedly, bisexual. to which the other replied that that was "disgusting". To which the first then responded that "she didn't mind, because Robbie was good looking".

So... the moral of the story is...

Some straight women are more tolerant of bisexual men if they conform to their aesthetic ideals.

This is really way off the topic, but by some strange co-incidence, I just watched (again) my favorite Robbie Williams DVD ("What We Did Last Summer... Live at Knebworth"). When he brings that girl on stage and holds and sings to her, I get this really amazing fantasy about making love to both of them at the same time.

Sorry about that. Doesn't seem to take a great deal to amuse me.

[mannysg]

In my experience, many women are turned on by watching 2 men have sex but will rarely admit it to anyone they know. The same thing can be said for oral sex. I know several women who enjoy going down on a man, but to their friends tehy say BJ's are "disgusting".

Now us guys on the other hand, are very open about enjoying watching 2 women "go at it" and readily admit that we like to go down on a woman.

[DiamondDog]

In my experience, many women are turned on by watching 2 men have sex but will rarely admit it to anyone they know. The same thing can be said for oral sex. I know several women who enjoy going down on a man, but to their friends tehy say BJ's are "disgusting".

Now us guys on the other hand, are very open about enjoying watching 2 women "go at it" and readily admit that we like to go down on a woman.

Just curious, what is it about watching two women have sex that turns you on?

It really doesn't do anything at all for me, even when there is vaginal fisting, dyke sex to me is just really boring/not arousing at all, and I'd rather just watch two or more men have sex, or actually have sex with a man instead of watching 2 women have sex.

I showed a het male friend of mine some gay anal fisting porns that I have and he said how there were too many men there and that's how I feel about lesbian porn, it's boring and not a turn on because there are too many women, no real penises, and no men!

I like giving women oral sex and I get told I'm very good at it for not knowing how things feel for a woman; but I'm A LOT better at giving head to men.

Also it's a lot easier for a man to clean his penis, keep it clean, and while men who are intact with a foreskin do get smegma you can easily wash it off or eat it if you want to, it's actually anti-bacterial and a good thing, and a man's smegma is nowhere near as pugnent and icky as the yeast and smegma that a woman's vagina produces, and a penis, even with or without an intact foreskin is a lot easier to keep clean than a vagina is.

Sucking on a cock feels more natural to me and there are hot things you can do when sucking a man's cock that wouldn't be as fun or appealing to do to a woman. I crave oral sex in various forms with men and I've found the experience to be spiritual and intense, and I've never ever had this happen when I've had sex with a woman.

Even just stroking a man's penis feels as natural to me as stroking my own!

[lookn0ver]

ohhh please! , how can they say no?
whats not to like about some one who is on the same page as everyone?
seems to me there's a lot of assumption about the level of bisexual on display here.
not everyone is for everyone. and my level of sexuality is in its own pace same as yours and maybe we'll cliché and maybe we won't. to each their reach.
there is how ever this magic, that happens and as it does you either like the person and are very turned on no matter what your preconceptions are as natural as your first cup of coffee in the morning can be...or
(only after)you find out more about the individual and then let your cheesy discriminations creep back into your soul(as we all do)&you get all hesitant and judgmental because of how you believe life should allow itself to exist in your backyard.

so until i admit myself ,or i am totally obvious, you will not know anything except how charming i am,or how charming i am not, bisexual or othersexual.

you can only go by what limited information you have at hand.

lots of people marry each other only to later find out what a jerk the other one was.
i don't think that each walked over to the other and said in plain English ,''HI I'M A COMPLETE CO~DEPENDENT , I TURN YOU ON !" no! there was this something else that did it...maybe they looked co~dependent and hence the glow about them was this shiny magic that like draws a bug to the poison trapping flower.

what turns these bugs on to getting themselves killed and eaten?
if the flower says hey," i'm poison!" come here,then what would the bug say or do?
some of us love to be killed. i know been duped plenty of times. sometimes its for your own good and sometimes a thousand deaths are not enough for the creep who duped you.
remember the time you purposely let yourself be seduced?
turned you on didn't it!
remember the time you fought off being being seduced?
you were still turned on but your better judgment overruled and you thought about it WHAT IF ? for a longtime afterwards.
some bisexuality scenes flip my switch and some don't. just being sexual doesn't guarantee that i will be turnedinsideout every single time like clockwork. there are many factors to take into account and the timing has to perfectly be in place before the chemical reaction will succeed.
sadly this is reality.
unless you have your finger on the pulse and only you know when you do(pretty cool stuff)and are in control and nothing can / will resist you... and if you know you are something that doesn't turn the other person on and you still need to do the deed, all you do is simply keep it to yourself. and no one's the wiser. and they won't exactly know what it is about you that turns them on so dam much....ohh most of us are already doing that! (hahahahaha@U!)
turn'm on tiger.:tongue:

[wingnut126]

Its been my experience that most women i would guess 80 percent of the ones i have told think its gross and another 10 percent had no opinion and about 10 percent said they they didnt mind but deep down i think they did i quit telling women untill i really get to know them because there have been times i just plain guessed wrong that they would understand ,what i dont get there are alot of bi women out there who say bi guys are gross and would never be with one oh-well go figure

[wanting2men]

Hi, all. First time I'm putting down my thoughts on this topic. I am a straight woman who loves watching 2 attractive men kiss, touch, suck, etc. I find it extremely erotic. The key word here is "attractive". I would not enjoy seeing two unattractive men together just as I wouldn't enjoy the same in a het. couple. A "masculine" man is a person who feels free to be with whomever he chooses.

[ladymozart]

Well personally I find bisexual males to be quite a turn on I find them to be more openminded sexually and compared to straight males not homophobic like some can be.
My boyfriend right now is very homophobic and when it comes to bisexuality he seems to think its ok for women of course but not ok for men he sees it as gross and a real turn off. We have had many discussions about this and he isnt openminded at all so as much as I love him i sometimes wish I was with a bisexual male who was more open sexually and more open to expoloring different things in the bedroom.
I have been with bisexual men and as long as they practice safe sex i am very turned on by it. I have alot of bisexual male friends and personally i think its great!
ladymozart:bipride:

[diB4u]

Its been my experience that most women i would guess 80 percent of the ones i have told think its gross and another 10 percent had no opinion and about 10 percent said they they didnt mind but deep down i think they did i quit telling women untill i really get to know them because there have been times i just plain guessed wrong that they would understand ,what i dont get there are alot of bi women out there who say bi guys are gross and would never be with one oh-well go figure


Aww that is very sad to read.

I love gay men and bi men- looks might come into it, but it doesnt matter with gay men. So where am I in that percent. For me to go all awww isnt that cute, they dont have to be doing anything sexual. Even groccery shopping i find cute.

In a trip to london i saw these two teenage gay boys/men ordering in MCdonalds not doing anything apart from holding hands. Cute or what.

I'm rather proud of the fact that i find gay and bisexual men sexually attractive. All my friends know that i do, they dont understand it, I dont expect them to lol... Its like one friend asked me why do some men like big women... Individual choice at the end of the day.

[biupstateny]

I just found out about my boyfriend in Jan. I was shocked. But since I have nothing against gay men at all, and It actually turns me on, I love the fact he is bi !!! It has brought a new element to our realtionship, he has opened up so much more, and sex is incredable!!!!! He is finally able to be who he is. I beleive there should never be secrets in a realtionship, and to be able to grow together, you should be able to experiance things together...:grouphug:

[BiphobiaFighter]

In a trip to london i saw these two teenage gay boys/men ordering in MCdonalds not doing anything apart from holding hands. Cute or what.
Assuming that two men holding hands are gay? :tongue:

[TaylorMade]

Just curious, what is it about watching two women have sex that turns you on?

It really doesn't do anything at all for me, even when there is vaginal fisting, dyke sex to me is just really boring/not arousing at all, and I'd rather just watch two or more men have sex, or actually have sex with a man instead of watching 2 women have sex.

I showed a het male friend of mine some gay anal fisting porns that I have and he said how there were too many men there and that's how I feel about lesbian porn, it's boring and not a turn on because there are too many women, no real penises, and no men!

I like giving women oral sex and I get told I'm very good at it for not knowing how things feel for a woman; but I'm A LOT better at giving head to men.

Also it's a lot easier for a man to clean his penis, keep it clean, and while men who are intact with a foreskin do get smegma you can easily wash it off or eat it if you want to, it's actually anti-bacterial and a good thing, and a man's smegma is nowhere near as pugnent and icky as the yeast and smegma that a woman's vagina produces, and a penis, even with or without an intact foreskin is a lot easier to keep clean than a vagina is.

Sucking on a cock feels more natural to me and there are hot things you can do when sucking a man's cock that wouldn't be as fun or appealing to do to a woman. I crave oral sex in various forms with men and I've found the experience to be spiritual and intense, and I've never ever had this happen when I've had sex with a woman.

Even just stroking a man's penis feels as natural to me as stroking my own!

Subjective much? :p

*Taylor*

[DiamondDog]

Subjective much? :p

*Taylor*

Let's just say I've had really BAD experiences!

Some of the women I've been with they'll wash their bodies but either don't wash their vaginas or don't know how to clean them or keep them clean and I would discover yeast/smegma when I was using my fingers on them and it was a total mood killer and not fun!

Also, after this happened some would want me to give them oral sex and I'd politely tell them how I would do this, if they kept themselves clean.

[TaylorMade]

Let's just say I've had really BAD experiences!

Some of the women I've been with they'll wash their bodies but either don't wash their vaginas or don't know how to clean them or keep them clean and I would discover yeast/smegma when I was using my fingers on them and it was a total mood killer and not fun!

Also, after this happened some would want me to give them oral sex and I'd politely tell them how I would do this, if they kept themselves clean.

Change quality of women is probably the best advice here DD. . .I keep my coochie as clean as possible because, you never know. . .not that anyone's tried recently.:rolleyes:

*Taylor*

[mannysg]

Just curious, what is it about watching two women have sex that turns you on?


Watching 2 women doesn't excite me as much as it used to. Years ago it was a big turn-on, but now it's not much of a turn on. It doesn't do a lot for me usually. I can't explain why watching 2 ladies used to turn me on so much, it just did. But I love to watch oral sex (F-F or M-M or M-F), probably becuase it's something that I really enjoy doing.

But then, years ago watching 2 guys togeher was a turn off, but now it's a turn on. However, I'd much rather watch an MMF threesome then anything else.

My point was that, in general, men are more vocal and more open about what they like to watch & do then women are. Of course, there are exceptions.

[ziggybabie]

My point was that, in general, men are more vocal and more open about what they like to watch & do then women are. Of course, there are exceptions.

I think that's because women are taught to be the "prim and proper" of the sexes. Like that joke "Men are the gas. Women are the brakes."

If a woman shows interest in sexuality, as much as guys do, she's often times afraid of being deemed a slut. That conditioning starts at an early age. Once again with the gender/social programming. We ALL have been programmed in some way, rather we recognize that or not. People who realize that, care to take time out of their day to think and be introspective or truly challenge themselves are a small minority.

[Skater Boy]

I think that's because women are taught to be the "prim and proper" of the sexes. Like that joke "Men are the gas. Women are the brakes."

If a woman shows interest in sexuality, as much as guys do, she's often times afraid of being deemed a slut. That conditioning starts at an early age. Once again with the gender/social programming. We ALL have been programmed in some way, rather we recognize that or not. People who realize that, care to take time out of their day to think and be introspective or truly challenge themselves are a small minority.

I guess so. But times they are achangin'. Have you seen any of Christina Aguilera's videos on MTV? The girl is dirrrty. And what about Madonna... she was pretty sexually liberated. And its not just popstars either... the average teenage girl is WAY more sexually liberated and empowered than 100 years ago. I think, were it not for the increased awareness and heightened profile of STDs and STIs, the 70s "Free Love" movement might've carried on into the 21st century...

[BiphobiaFighter]

the average teenage girl is WAY more sexually liberated and empowered than 100 years ago.

And when I look around, women seem to wear clothes that are more revealing more often than men do.

[ziggybabie]

I guess so. But times they are achangin'. Have you seen any of Christina Aguilera's videos on MTV? The girl is dirrrty. And what about Madonna... she was pretty sexually liberated. And its not just popstars either... the average teenage girl is WAY more sexually liberated and empowered than 100 years ago. I think, were it not for the increased awareness and heightened profile of STDs and STIs, the 70s "Free Love" movement might've carried on into the 21st century...

I don't know why, but artists tend to be more liberated people, in general, than many of the populace. Maybe that's just me, though. I do think we've come a lot further. I still think we have a LONG way to go, and too many people are repressed in their thinking. The term "free love" sounds cool, but the carelessness, lack of cleanliness, and almost lack of order with many of the "free love" movement is part of what lead to the spread of so many diseases. Of course, you still see that today. (I don't care if you like condoms.....USE them when necessary.)

And, yes more women might dress provocative, now, but many who do still have much of the repressed thinking I mentioned, in one or more particular areas.

[ohbimale]

I have been bisexual since I was a teenager in the 1970's. I have always been turned on by both sexes. Many of the women I have been involved with or spoke about the subject with are not turned on by male on male sex. I'd say roughly 15% of the women I have known causally and/or in relationships were accepting of me being a bisexual man and turned on by it.

I would love to see that number improve.

:bipride::male::male:

[DiamondDog]

I guess so. But times they are achangin'. Have you seen any of Christina Aguilera's videos on MTV? The girl is dirrrty. And what about Madonna... she was pretty sexually liberated. And its not just popstars either... the average teenage girl is WAY more sexually liberated and empowered than 100 years ago. I think, were it not for the increased awareness and heightened profile of STDs and STIs, the 70s "Free Love" movement might've carried on into the 21st century...

Very true.

Even the words slut, bitch, cunt, and other words aren't seen as slurs or derogatory anymore towards women or anyone.

Speaking of "free love" the idea of polyamory is simply just a nostalgia for the 60s and 70s when it's nothing new at all and it's simply having an open relationship and nothing more.

[the mage]

Very true.

Even the words slut, bitch, cunt, and other words aren't seen as slurs or derogatory anymore towards women or anyone.

Speaking of "free love" the idea of polyamory is simply just a nostalgia for the 60s and 70s when it's nothing new at all and it's simply having an open relationship and nothing more.



.........................So my Lady read your response and said....
"What women are you hanging out with?"


Gawd boy you are so out of line it is sad.

You just might get away with calling a submissive those names in the heat of sex but go ahead, just try those words out in public among civilized people and see the reaction. Maybe at work one day call a co worker a "cunt" see what happens...idiot.

[DiamondDog]

.........................So my Lady read your response and said....
"What women are you hanging out with?"


Gawd boy you are so out of line it is sad.

You just might get away with calling a submissive those names in the heat of sex but go ahead, just try those words out in public among civilized people and see the reaction. Maybe at work one day call a co worker a "cunt" see what happens...idiot.

*Yawn* I hang out with people who don't let words affect them.

People should get over the yucky reaction that they have towards certain words.

Why bring my age into this yet again old troll?

Why keep bringing your old fashioned and close minded ideas into this thread and onto this site?

Words and their meaning are constantly changing if you hadn't noticed by now at 51 years of age.

Or are you too busy setting up consensual "rape" scenes, calling it real rape for your own need for personal attention and drama, when it's just a "rape" scene and is consensual by everyone involved?

I'm not going to get into how cunt, bitch, and slut can be words of power, affirmation, and positive words even for women, since you're not worth the effort and it's not like you'll actually read what I write or keep an open mind about it.

[Skater Boy]

'Tis the season to be jolly... falla-lala-la-lala-la-la... :tong:

[welickit]

Interesting subject. The wife and I discussed it and she said if something happened to me she wouldn't even consider a man who wasn't bi.:bipride:

[<<GOD>>]

'Tis the season to be jolly... falla-lala-la-lala-la-la... :tong:

No more flames and fists of fury...falla-lala-la-lala-la-la

Down we now our gay appaeral :bigrin:
Fa la la (fa la la)
Fa la laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

(Bring it home now Skater)

<<God>>

[guycurious]

My wife made a comment a long time back. She said, "The thought of two men being together is not appealing."

Now, I've had bi feelings dating back to my childhood. Never acted upon them. My bi feelings kept getting stronger so 1.5 years ago I confessed my curiousities to my wife. She said she already knew and was just waiting for me to tell her.

Since then we've been with one bi couple and one bi male and that was a while back.

But now I think she is drifting back towards monogamy. For a short time she was the one actively pursuing another couple for us to experiment with but that ended quickly in my opinion. I gave up trying to find another couple due to the vibe I was feeling from my wife. One night in the hottub she asked if I was having any luck finding someone and I simply replied, "I gave up." At this point I was hoping we were going to have a conversation about this but she didn't say another word. I felt she was relieved.

So I gave up for a while but the desires keep getting stronger so I started looking again. I mentioned this latest search and she replied with very little interest.

So I now have a conundrum. Infidelity is never an option. My desires keep gaining ground. What I feel to be a negative vibe from my wife is negatively affecting my sexual desire for her.

What I want is for my wife to demonstrate an active desire to explore sexually with other people. She knows what I desire. In bed the other night I told her I wanted to try and fit two men inside me at the same time. Her response was, "You could do it [physically]" I was hoping for more conversation regarding this but no.

So to answer your original question I can't.......

[mobicpl69]

I am married to a bisexual man and I love to play with my clit everytime he is with another guy.....it is soooooooooo HOT!

[ambi53mm]

I guess so. But times they are achangin'. Have you seen any of Christina Aguilera's videos on MTV? The girl is dirrrty. And what about Madonna... she was pretty sexually liberated. And its not just popstars either... the average teenage girl is WAY more sexually liberated and empowered than 100 years ago. I think, were it not for the increased awareness and heightened profile of STDs and STIs, the 70s "Free Love" movement might've carried on into the 21st century...

The "Free Love" ( Uninhibited Sexual Exploration) movement is alive and well. Like so many things spawned by that era (70’s) it never really disappeared but just went underground and kind of out of the mainstream. Having lived and contributed to the reemergence of sexual liberation during the 70’s as well as now, I would almost venture to say it’s much more prevalent now than it was back then. The internet has made it very easy and accessible to many.
Despite the thinking that it’s a nostalgic desire to return to another time it really isn’t. It an evolution of sexuality in progress and it began long before the 60’s and 70’s. Despite the increased risks which all of us that continue to participate are extremely well aware of, it is not slowing down anytime soon. In fact it’s snowballing as we speak.
Bisexual males do seem to have a little harder time in gaining acceptance, even with groups that are fairly tolerant of sexual exploration. There is a stigma unfortunatley that is still associated with male to male sex. It's better and a little more open than it was say, ten years ago but it is still very much there. It's in a state of change as well , and as long as people continue to discuss, learn ,and grow from questions such as the one that began this thread and others..The hope for change will be realized...just takes time

Ambi:)