Men suck.. thats why I'm Bi

[Pixiedust]

Has anyone had an experience where you're with someone and they are acting all kind and gentle and shit like they care about your feelings, (keep in mind, they ask, "Is anything bothering you? Is everything ok?") they ask all the right questions, give you a false sense of security like you have a loving man willing to listen and damn it if he goes from one extreme of extra loving to SuperAsshole and starts throwing shit like a two year old! I swear I cant tell this man anything about my feelings without him twisting my words and making me feel as if I'm wrong for just opening my mouth!

Then later when the dust is clear oh how he ENJOYS reminding me how lucky I am to have a man who is loving and kind like he is, who does things for me and such, but let him ask me whats on my mind--I'd rather not HAVE a mind if I expect to be treated like shit when I express myself. And I dont tell him that anything is his fault either. Thats the GENIUS of it!

If anyone remembers, he went behind my back a few weeks ago any made Craigslist personals looking for another woman and so forth, and since then he hasnt made a peep, has been sorry, and all sorts of crap. Now since I'm suddenly "The Grinch that RUINED Christmas", I'm starting to wonder if he is just biding his time just so he can get cool presents out of me ( I already bought them about a couple hundred bucks worth). I wouldnt be suprised if he decided to "ditch" me after the holidays.

I think he gets his rocks off by treating me like shit. Maybe he thinks he was treated like crap as a kid by friends and lovers so treating me like shit makes him feel better who knows.

He's lucky I dont tie his sorry ass up while he's sleeping and set him and the fucking bed aflame!

(Dear "Fed" aka internet cop jockeys..I know you guys read everything online.. its a fucking METAPHOR, not literal, morons!)

Anything like this ever happen to you?

[centralpamale]

Hey


well my opinion :

ditch im b4 he does you - and return the gifts to the store .. Then go get your self something nice :) and after you cool down from his horrible treatment send me a message hun - i'm 35-40 mins from del line . and i 'll treat you right if you wana nother guy . :) :)

[still_shy]

Yup, have had the same experience many times...it's part of the trip they're on to try and convince you that they are good to you. It's a mindfuck sweetie and you should run like hell. Verbal abuse is just as damaging as physical, it can eat away at you like a disease. This guy sounds like a class A moron. I'm just now drinking my first cup of coffee this morning, hope this makes sense :)

[alegrias]

Your (soon to be ex?) man may be a jerk, but not all men are. There are a few good ones out there. I found one.

[still_shy]

Your (soon to be ex?) man may be a jerk, but not all men are. There are a few good ones out there. I found one.

That's one thing I forgot!! I went through several crappy relationships and a divorce before I was 25. THEN I finally found the most wonderful man. At exactly the moment I gave up, he walked into my life. At the time, I almost didn't say yes when he asked me out on a date, I was just so burnt out on men that I didn't even want to think of another one. Now I thank god every single day for him, he's my best friend!!

[Realist]

I have a female friend who has been a magnet for assholes much of her life. Being bisexual, she felt she was handicapped, because of all the taboos she been indoctrinated with. I guess she figured she was not good enough and vacillated between lovers, of one sex, or the other, never finding peach, acceptance, or love. She is so cute, vivacious, intelligent and I never could understand how she'd hook up with such self-centered, selfish and mean-spirited guys. But for a long time that was her fate.

Then, about 10 years ago, she fell in love with a woman and her husband, who loved her, respected her and they became a wonderful loving part of each others' lives. Her real life began when they met. I'm so happy for her and she has grown and blossomed into this wonderful smart, successful lady, who was finally able to be herself and loved for it.

If asked what I'd do, I'd say "RUN, don't walk away from this relationship, girl!" There is someone out there for you, but he ain't it! As long as you're stuck with him, you won't be available when the right person does come long.

'Nuff said..................................

[evilpanda]

Guys are dicks to bi chicks because they have all these preconceived notions about what bisexuals are like, and most of those came from porn, which is mostly straight girls going through the gay motions so straight guys can get off. For all the evidence of this behavior you need, just watch an episode of Tila Tequila. Yeah, I don't wanna either.
:bipride:

PS. Straight women rub me the wrong way, too. That's why I'M bi.

[lsd51]

...actually, this man does suck- when he gets
the chance...

[_Joe_]

Just to be straight up - both sexes can suck. My brother is looking at a divorce for his Christmas present, and I'm hoping for it, she is a total bitch that has rode him over back and forth for the past decade and a half. Too bad my brother lacks a backbone or self respect to have kicked her out before the marriage.

[pottzie]

Whenever I read a post like this it reminds me of the way I treated most of the girls when I was younger. I was the Marlboro man, hard and mean. An asshole, with a capitol A. And guess what? The girls did what anyone would, dropped me like a hot potato and found better...assholes. Seems like it anyway, maybe I wasn't mean enough to them. It takes work to be a jerk; it's not my natural personality trait. But often it seemed as if that was the yardstick the girls judged their preferences by.
That said, I got my comeuppance when I met my wife, who had just come from a relationship like the one you describe, and had been the doormat for a guy that thought her waist size was more important than her brains.
That was over 20 years ago, and I'm still amazed at what she does. But I always wondered what it would be like to meet some of those girls that I crapped on, and see what would happen if they could only see that, in the end I, and perhaps everyone, gets what we so richly deserve.

One thing that impressed me when I met my wife was when she told me, after staying at her place a few nights, "Well, I guess you need to be introduced to my dog. He's attack trained." My father grew up watching my grandfather come home drunk, and use my grandmother as a punching bag, and I figured this girl was different. Smart, too.
I did mention she was smart, didn't I?

[jem_is_bi]

I have always been amazed by what kind of men some very smart and wonderful women are attracted to, even though these men treat them badly. It seems to me that a man that will treat them right cannot be sexually, sensually exciting to these women. So, they go from one bad relationship to the next bad relationship. But, they appear to have some thrilling times and great sex along the way that probably could not happen with another type of man.

[FalconAngel]

What is most distressing to me is the fact that, as far as honesty and integrity in a relationship, men and women both hit the charts at about the same level.

It may be easy to just blame men, in this overly blame-fixing society that Sally Jesse Raphael has helped to shape, but let's be honest here;

in things like domestic violence, the national average shows that 51% of instigators are women, 49% are men. But over 75% of the time, women don't get charged when they are the instigators because of this feminazis delusion that women (who fought so hard for equality) are still perceived as being the weak, defenseless victims most of the time.

The numbers don't add up.

Women can be and have been as bad as men.

Now I am not saying that, in this case, she is wrong for disliking being lied to and cheated on, but let's not toss all men into the trash just because of a few.
If we do it to men, then we must do the same to women. (Hey, you all wanted equality, well it comes with a responsibility that comes with the role of equal)

"All women are bad because I had 2 ex's that lied to me and cheated on me."

Doesn't sound right does it?

Of course it doesn't sound right nor is it a fair determination. Women are no better or worse than men and there is nothing that we can do to change that.

We all want our exes to be the all bad person and us to be the poor helpless victim, but none of us are perfect. If any of us were perfect, then we wouldn't have any ex partners because we would have found the absolute right person the first (and only) time.

So if you have someone bad in your life, walk away and be done with them forever, stop grousing about them and move on and don't put your angst over your bad choice of partners on everyone of that gender.

When you put all men/women on the same level of behavior as your ex (because of the ex), you will sabotage every relationship that you have from that point on until you accept that the problem was that one person, not every person of that gender.

Deal with it and accept that there are good guys out there and good women out there as well as bad guys and bad gals out there as well. Move on, stop pissing and moaning about it and learn from your mistakes.

[Bi Boi Indiana]

babe i know how you feel ....... Kinda feel im there right now myself, but not with Our boyfriend, but his live in toy ...... that boy is a complete ASSHOLE!


Babe, you really should dump his ass before he does you! It seems to work better that way, and then maybe you wont be so heartbroken knowing you beat him to the punch .....


Much love, and i hope you can salvage a bit of the holiday cheer left .....

Happy new year honey,
Bill

[PolyLoveTriad]

*hugs* 1. Thank heavens that men suck!! *wink* 2. Kick the jackass out of your life, in a couple of weeks youll be SO glad you did. Everyone is right, life is too damn short to be wasting it on someone who doesnt honestly love you! Ive been in that situation myself and trust me, you WILL feel WONDERFUL once you get rid of him. Tons of fishes out in the sea!

I think I need some better bait though... we seem to not do so well fishing here lol just a couple of minows and a shark which got thrown back in!

[ris19]

I'm not like that. Everyone says im one of the few men who are whatever you call it. But my ex girlfriend did the whole " if you need me for anything im here for you. i love you more than anything. how are you? anything you want to talk about?" blah blah blah. then she went and cheated on me. x.x gr.

[tatooedpunk]

Pixie i think (and you do obviously) you were with an asshole of a man.
But just to put things into perspective when i was younger i was engaged to a girl who pretty much destroyed any self esteem i may have had.She would have sex with any man who walked by and rubbed it in my face,once at least with so-called friends.
what i am trying to say is that did not make me bi and not only men suck

[opentoideas1964]

Amen Brother. I have been the victim of Dom Violence, and I was twice charged. Cost me tens of thousands $. The bad thing is once your in the system, your always the perp, even if you win, you loose.


What is most distressing to me is the fact that, as far as honesty and integrity in a relationship, men and women both hit the charts at about the same level.

It may be easy to just blame men, in this overly blame-fixing society that Sally Jesse Raphael has helped to shape, but let's be honest here;

in things like domestic violence, the national average shows that 51% of instigators are women, 49% are men. But over 75% of the time, women don't get charged when they are the instigators because of this feminazis delusion that women (who fought so hard for equality) are still perceived as being the weak, defenseless victims most of the time.

The numbers don't add up.

Women can be and have been as bad as men.

Now I am not saying that, in this case, she is wrong for disliking being lied to and cheated on, but let's not toss all men into the trash just because of a few.
If we do it to men, then we must do the same to women. (Hey, you all wanted equality, well it comes with a responsibility that comes with the role of equal)

"All women are bad because I had 2 ex's that lied to me and cheated on me."

Doesn't sound right does it?

Of course it doesn't sound right nor is it a fair determination. Women are no better or worse than men and there is nothing that we can do to change that.

We all want our exes to be the all bad person and us to be the poor helpless victim, but none of us are perfect. If any of us were perfect, then we wouldn't have any ex partners because we would have found the absolute right person the first (and only) time.

So if you have someone bad in your life, walk away and be done with them forever, stop grousing about them and move on and don't put your angst over your bad choice of partners on everyone of that gender.

When you put all men/women on the same level of behavior as your ex (because of the ex), you will sabotage every relationship that you have from that point on until you accept that the problem was that one person, not every person of that gender.

Deal with it and accept that there are good guys out there and good women out there as well as bad guys and bad gals out there as well. Move on, stop pissing and moaning about it and learn from your mistakes.

[Centerpiece74]

He posted on CL for another girl??? Drop him! They are not all the same.. my husband embraces my bisexuality and is truthful! Don't stay. Life is too short and there are men out there that will treat you like the queen you are!

[Pixiedust]

Gee FA, I didnt know I didnt have a right to vent my thoughts and opinions. And thanks for telling me to "get over it". What a pal. I know that I cant depend upon you as a potential friend.

Remember, the thread is titled "Men suck, thats why I'm bi"... not "men suck thats why I'm lesbian", which MUST mean there are a few good men out there ( or here whichever the case).

There are plenty of women ( and men) who feel the same way. And of course, plenty of men ( and women) who dont. This is one womans opinion, and I have a right to it. The last thing a person needs is condescention when she is already down. And thanks for kicking me when I'm down. Mustve felt real good when you typed it. If you dont share my opine, run along.




What is most distressing to me is the fact that, as far as honesty and integrity in a relationship, men and women both hit the charts at about the same level.

It may be easy to just blame men, in this overly blame-fixing society that Sally Jesse Raphael has helped to shape, but let's be honest here;

in things like domestic violence, the national average shows that 51% of instigators are women, 49% are men. But over 75% of the time, women don't get charged when they are the instigators because of this feminazis delusion that women (who fought so hard for equality) are still perceived as being the weak, defenseless victims most of the time.

The numbers don't add up.

Women can be and have been as bad as men.

Now I am not saying that, in this case, she is wrong for disliking being lied to and cheated on, but let's not toss all men into the trash just because of a few.
If we do it to men, then we must do the same to women. (Hey, you all wanted equality, well it comes with a responsibility that comes with the role of equal)

"All women are bad because I had 2 ex's that lied to me and cheated on me."

Doesn't sound right does it?

Of course it doesn't sound right nor is it a fair determination. Women are no better or worse than men and there is nothing that we can do to change that.

We all want our exes to be the all bad person and us to be the poor helpless victim, but none of us are perfect. If any of us were perfect, then we wouldn't have any ex partners because we would have found the absolute right person the first (and only) time.

So if you have someone bad in your life, walk away and be done with them forever, stop grousing about them and move on and don't put your angst over your bad choice of partners on everyone of that gender.

When you put all men/women on the same level of behavior as your ex (because of the ex), you will sabotage every relationship that you have from that point on until you accept that the problem was that one person, not every person of that gender.

Deal with it and accept that there are good guys out there and good women out there as well as bad guys and bad gals out there as well. Move on, stop pissing and moaning about it and learn from your mistakes.

[allbimyself]

Gee FA, I didnt know I didnt have a right to vent my thoughts and opinions. And thanks for telling me to "get over it". What a pal. I know that I cant depend upon you as a potential friend.

Remember, the thread is titled "Men suck, thats why I'm bi"... not "men suck thats why I'm lesbian", which MUST mean there are a few good men out there ( or here whichever the case).

There are plenty of women ( and men) who feel the same way. And of course, plenty of men ( and women) who dont. This is one womans opinion, and I have a right to it. The last thing a person needs is condescention when she is already down. And thanks for kicking me when I'm down. Mustve felt real good when you typed it. If you dont share my opine, run along.Yes, you are entitled to your opinion, but, get this, SO IS HE.

BTW, if you don't want to be kicked, don't kick half the people you are talking to first.

[Pixiedust]

Yes, you are entitled to your opinion, but, get this, SO IS HE.

BTW, if you don't want to be kicked, don't kick half the people you are talking to first.


I dont know if you read my post... let me try this again...



Has anyone had an experience where you're with someone and they are acting all kind and gentle and shit like they care about your feelings, (keep in mind, they ask, "Is anything bothering you? Is everything ok?") they ask all the right questions, give you a false sense of security like you have a loving man willing to listen and damn it if he goes from one extreme of extra loving to SuperAsshole and starts throwing shit like a two year old! I swear I cant tell this man anything about my feelings without him twisting my words and making me feel as if I'm wrong for just opening my mouth!

Then later when the dust is clear oh how he ENJOYS reminding me how lucky I am to have a man who is loving and kind like he is, who does things for me and such, but let him ask me whats on my mind--I'd rather not HAVE a mind if I expect to be treated like shit when I express myself. And I dont tell him that anything is his fault either. Thats the GENIUS of it!

If anyone remembers, he went behind my back a few weeks ago any made Craigslist personals looking for another woman and so forth, and since then he hasnt made a peep, has been sorry, and all sorts of crap. Now since I'm suddenly "The Grinch that RUINED Christmas", I'm starting to wonder if he is just biding his time just so he can get cool presents out of me ( I already bought them about a couple hundred bucks worth). I wouldnt be suprised if he decided to "ditch" me after the holidays.

I think he gets his rocks off by treating me like shit. Maybe he thinks he was treated like crap as a kid by friends and lovers so treating me like shit makes him feel better who knows.

He's lucky I dont tie his sorry ass up while he's sleeping and set him and the fucking bed aflame!

(Dear "Fed" aka internet cop jockeys..I know you guys read everything online.. its a fucking METAPHOR, not literal, morons!)

Anything like this ever happen to you?

NOWHERE in my post was I kicking anyone on this site...was I? If everyone's problem is the TITLE of the thread, then gee fucking wilickers I'm SORRY ok? NOWHERE did I kick ANYONE in my post. I'm VENTING. PLEASE let me vent. Like you let your FRIENDS vent. Like you rally around people you apparently KNOW. I'm trying to get some things off my chest, and apparently no one read the post and is stuck on the TITLE. My question was "Anything like this ever happen to you" and I'm getting hit with bullshit. LET ME BE THE PERSON THAT I AM.

[boca.openminded]

Has anyone had an experience where you're with someone and they are acting all kind and gentle and shit like they care about your feelings, (keep in mind, they ask, "Is anything bothering you? Is everything ok?") they ask all the right questions, give you a false sense of security like you have a loving man willing to listen and damn it if he goes from one extreme of extra loving to SuperAsshole and starts throwing shit like a two year old! I swear I cant tell this man anything about my feelings without him twisting my words and making me feel as if I'm wrong for just opening my mouth!

Then later when the dust is clear oh how he ENJOYS reminding me how lucky I am to have a man who is loving and kind like he is, who does things for me and such, but let him ask me whats on my mind--I'd rather not HAVE a mind if I expect to be treated like shit when I express myself. And I dont tell him that anything is his fault either. Thats the GENIUS of it!

If anyone remembers, he went behind my back a few weeks ago any made Craigslist personals looking for another woman and so forth, and since then he hasnt made a peep, has been sorry, and all sorts of crap. Now since I'm suddenly "The Grinch that RUINED Christmas", I'm starting to wonder if he is just biding his time just so he can get cool presents out of me ( I already bought them about a couple hundred bucks worth). I wouldnt be suprised if he decided to "ditch" me after the holidays.

I think he gets his rocks off by treating me like shit. Maybe he thinks he was treated like crap as a kid by friends and lovers so treating me like shit makes him feel better who knows.

He's lucky I dont tie his sorry ass up while he's sleeping and set him and the fucking bed aflame!

(Dear "Fed" aka internet cop jockeys..I know you guys read everything online.. its a fucking METAPHOR, not literal, morons!)

Anything like this ever happen to you?


reading this reminds me of my ex-girlfriend....lol

so I guess some men are just as stupid as some women are.. I'm sure we can share horror stories but lets just say its a tie!

and thats what pushed me towards my curiosities...

good luck!

[FalconAngel]

Gee FA, I didnt know I didnt have a right to vent my thoughts and opinions. And thanks for telling me to "get over it". What a pal. I know that I cant depend upon you as a potential friend.

Remember, the thread is titled "Men suck, thats why I'm bi"... not "men suck thats why I'm lesbian", which MUST mean there are a few good men out there ( or here whichever the case).

There are plenty of women ( and men) who feel the same way. And of course, plenty of men ( and women) who dont. This is one womans opinion, and I have a right to it. The last thing a person needs is condescention when she is already down. And thanks for kicking me when I'm down. Mustve felt real good when you typed it. If you dont share my opine, run along.

Nobody says that you don't have a right to gripe, but I know that I am so fucking sick of my gender being the punching bag every time some woman makes a bad relationship choice.

Like I said, there are just as many bad women out there as bad men.

So let's stop the bullshit man-bashing, shall we?

I know that it is very PC to bash us guys, but we need to get real about this. The idiotic "us poor women" thing doesn't wash anymore. This is not the Sally Jessie Raphael days.

You want to bash the asshole that is screwing you over, then do it. But don't sit there and say "all men suck" and expect to come out of that statement unscathed.

You think that all men suck? If you do, then you don't know too many or you don't know too many that aren't low-life bastards.

I've known plenty of women that are just like your ex, but that doesn't mean that all women are cruel heartless bitches. I know plenty that are and plenty that aren't and when I bitch about my ex, I don't lump all women in her category. Be right about it. The guy that you are bitching about is a horses ass. We get that, but don't lay this pure bullshit "all men suck" crap on us.

There are plenty of us guys that DON'T deserve that kind of blanket dismissal, from you or anyone. You may want to think about that.

[marysueiowacd]

Have you ever thought about finding a bi sexual or so called str8 crossdressing man? I have been married to my wife for 34 yrs and told her I crossdress about 9 yrs a go. She still don't know I am bi curious and I hope to have that conversation but we are happy together and I dress for bed every night in panties and nighty.There are so many crossdressing men looking for a loving relationship with a woman. Just thought maybe you should try and find a femme man they are out there looking for wonderful women like you. Crossdressers are happy to just get new panties for xmas or birthdays or maybe a new dress some make up. mmmm The list goes on. Take care and good luck to all the women here. Hugs marysueiowacd

[Pixiedust]

http://main.bisexual.com/forum/showpost.php?p=118434&postcount=18

ONCE AGAIN, I didnt say anything about "POOR WOMEN" or anything like that.. thats something YOU conjured up. If you have a problem with the TITLE OF THE POST, fuck it, its the TITLE OF THE POST. There is NOTHING IN MY ACTUAL THREAD that says anything WRONG. I'm talking about something that happened to me, and asked if anyone experienced something similar. PLEASE READ EVERYTHING CAREFULLY before you go on tangents and making base accusations which if you READ, nothing you're pissed about matches anything I said. EVERYTHING YOURE PISSED ABOUT APPARENTLY IS SOMETHING YOU MADE UP IN YOUR OWN MIND ABOUT ME, OR SOMETHING THAT YOURE PERSONALLY TIRED OF. Make your own post about "Are you tired of women bashing men" if you must, but dont get all pissy in my thread. I wasnt bashing men, I was venting. If I was bashing men I wouldve said "theyre all assholes, they all do this they all do that"--AND THE DISCERNING PERSON CAN SEE I DIDNT SAY ANY OF THOSE THINGS!! So what if the title says "Men suck... thats why I'm bi"? Which apparently means, to the trained eye, that if I didnt like ALL MEN, I would be completely LESBIAN, which I DID NOT SAY.

I've been reading a lot of thread posts lately, and i've noticed theres a lot of folks on here that are looking for fights, disputes, arguments, and what not. I WAS NOT and STILL am not looking to argue. I was ( ONCE AGAIN) venting, and apparently people do that on here a lot. If you must attack me, try attacking everyone else too for being human.



Nobody says that you don't have a right to gripe, but I know that I am so fucking sick of my gender being the punching bag every time some woman makes a bad relationship choice.

Like I said, there are just as many bad women out there as bad men.

So let's stop the bullshit man-bashing, shall we?

I know that it is very PC to bash us guys, but we need to get real about this. The idiotic "us poor women" thing doesn't wash anymore. This is not the Sally Jessie Raphael days.

You want to bash the asshole that is screwing you over, then do it. But don't sit there and say "all men suck" and expect to come out of that statement unscathed.

You think that all men suck? If you do, then you don't know too many or you don't know too many that aren't low-life bastards.

I've known plenty of women that are just like your ex, but that doesn't mean that all women are cruel heartless bitches. I know plenty that are and plenty that aren't and when I bitch about my ex, I don't lump all women in her category. Be right about it. The guy that you are bitching about is a horses ass. We get that, but don't lay this pure bullshit "all men suck" crap on us.

There are plenty of us guys that DON'T deserve that kind of blanket dismissal, from you or anyone. You may want to think about that.

[darkeyes]

Me on ur side Pix hun.. peeps reely shud read wotya say.. o well.. ther prob.. title wos a bit silly..but me often slags the daft sods off an has a go at them as a breed.. bit like they do bout us behind wheel of a car.. an otha less friendly things..ther r bastards among men ok but not all..jus like ther r sum rite evil cows among women..:tong:

.. an Allbi me luffly.. ya knos me..haff a the population has no chance an haffa the rest r 2 young... haffa the remainder 2 old... haffa wots left me don fancy so me reckons that leaves sumwer bout 7% a the population a the planet me can gaze longingly at.. an since me has been well warned..all but 1 r off limits on pain a slow lingerin an mizzy old age.. so from time 2 time.. me don mind upsettin ne or every 1.. tee hee;):bigrin::female::female:.. but then..ya knos that an all...:bigrin:

[vittoria]

LOL Frannie! A rite onnery tart!

Read this post a couple of times. Had to read it again before I thought of something to say.

Been there. Done that. Moved on. And I too dare say that for every relationship that I was in, was it stOOpid ME, or stOOpid MEN?!

;)

But FalconAngel, I must say sweets, you must REEEEELLLY H8 Sally Jesse. There was a lot of venom coming from your commentary :eek: Maybe you should send SJR some hatemail she can actually read-- I dont know if she's a member of the bi-site yet so she can read what ya said ROFL!

I know of some deranged broads, broadly speaking. :tong: I remember this one chick I was seein, we were in the throes of ecstacy, and all of a sudden she got up, looked at her phone, said I have to go, my boyfriend will be home in 10 minutes, and away she went. Not even a phone call back the next day. People are weird. (Dont get mad at THAT knitted quilt of a phrase;) ):three:


V

[lovedoctor]

Yeesh... Dare I wade in!

I understand Falcon's point. As a man, I'm a bit tired of being labeled a jerk, because there are many of them out there. In some ways I think many women encourage the behavior by dating, well, jacka$$es. Its also a bit of our fault as men, because we allow so many jerks to behave as they do. There are a lot of jerks out there, its one of the things that make it so difficult for us guys to find a caring couple or women who is interested, because many guys have come before who are liars, fakes or worse. But to label us all, that we suck, well I see why Falcon took offense. For us good guys, its irritating. I also understand your feelings Pixie, so don't feel like I'm piling on, you are hurt and venting so no worries, just sharing a thought.

I have to say I agree a lot with what JEM said. In my younger days I would get so frustrated as I had many women friends, but most often said to me, "I'm not interested in dating you, you are more of the marrying type." I found all these guys that were a-holes who generally got the interest of many of the most amazing girls I knew. Then my women friends would complain about the mental abuse they would receive, yet would be back with the jerk a day later. I always have found it quite disturbing.

From trying such aloofness for some time I found that the challenge and mystery of the cocky jerk had a certain attraction to it, and it was easier to find women to date (though not really have a relationship with). Though for me personally, I just couldn't behave that way, I didn't feel right about it, so went back to my cheery self. I've learned that a woman needs to love me for me, and not expect her to behave any different than she does. Its her decision and choice and if we don't fit, and if we don't, well there are other fish in the sea.

As I've gotten older I've learned a lot about who I am and my sexuality. My feelings on a sexual level where very difficult for me to understand as well. Though I enjoy bi playtimes, on an emotional and even physical level I'm not attracted to guys and simply adore women. So I've learned where I'm comfortable and who I am. Some may think it strange for me to say I enjoy men sexually, and as friends, but not any further than that. Well, to each his or her own.

So if I can offer any advice I'd say, become comfortable and happy with who you are, and screw how others treat you. Tell them how you feel when they hurt you, but be able to let go of the hurt, and potentially the relationship as well. I know that is easy to say, but much harder to do.

[lovedoctor]

Read this post a couple of times. Had to read it again before I thought of something to say.

Been there. Done that. Moved on. And I too dare say that for every relationship that I was in, was it stOOpid ME, or stOOpid MEN?!

;)

I know of some deranged broads, broadly speaking. :tong: I remember this one chick I was seein, we were in the throes of ecstacy, and all of a sudden she got up, looked at her phone, said I have to go, my boyfriend will be home in 10 minutes, and away she went. Not even a phone call back the next day. People are weird. (Dont get mad at THAT knitted quilt of a phrase;) ):three:


V

Vittoria... May I just say.... Right on! :bigrin:

[canuckotter]

Wow... This thread took a crazy-ass turn when FA started posting in it.:eek:

Anyway. Back to the original topic: Oh hon, I sure as hell hope you returned those presents and tossed that asshole to the curb. He's an abusive, manipulative asshole, plain and simple. He's practically the walking stereotype of Nice Guy(tm) -- read this (http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml) to see what I mean.

Nice Guys(tm) suck. Flat-out suck. And not in a good way. They can learn not to be such complete jackasses, but this dude won't do it while he still has you around to beat up on. Who knows, maybe he'll smarten up and turn into a decent human being and come back into your life and things will be good... but in the meantime, yes, what you've described sounds like a form of abuse. Mild abuse, to be sure, but what you've described just ain't right. That is not the kind of behaviour any healthy, mature person should ever engage in. You're damn right to be pissed off about the situation.

[Mmonty]

You are bi because the guys you meet are jerks? I certainly not bi because women are bad. I LOVE Women. I think being bi is just part of one's nature and not a reaction to bad relationships with the opposite sex.

[opentoideas1964]

I've had my attraction to guys since I was very young.(5-6yo)

[darkeyes]

LOL Frannie! A rite onnery tart!


U jus bein nice cos u kno yas parta the 7%, V... muah:tong: tee hee

[BiloxiM4Fun]

Well Pix...quite a post...and this is my first response on the site myself.

A. Since you are on this site, I presume (indeed your profile says) you are bi.

Any man lucky enough to have a bi woman for his wife needs to fall down on his knees and silently pray "thank YOU GOD!"

After all, I believe the original plan was for us all to run around naked gardening and we screwed it up.

B. It's biological that we men have millions and millions (apologies to Carl Sagan who had billions and billions) of sperm and women have an egg or two per month.

I didn't do the design, I'm just reading the blue prints.

But back to my point A, he should be GRATEFUL to have you willing to share lust with him.

C. I see many couples on other sites that seem to cherish the swinging life style and there seem to be a few that fall thru the cracks of jealousy and such.

Despite being a man, I believe there are a LOT more good women out there than there are good men.

Now...warning...this may seem insensitive and I hasten to add that a bi woman trumps ALL other attributes. But all of us see slender single women at work wearing terribly short skirts. That's how I know there are more good women than good men. Just look at the statistics (when you can find them) on sex site memberships. Men outnumber women 20, 30, 40 or 50:1


I'm sorry for your set back, but trust me on this. If this man does not appreciate you for being bi, despite whether you are slender or not (and you women are WAY to sensitive too your weight and shape), then there are plenty of us out there who appreciate you.

IF (I say again for possible penetration) IF I ever get married again, I plan to have a 10,000 point scoring system where being bi, a stripper, a porn star, or willing to pose nude on a website will be worth at least 2000 points apiece.

Taking cum on your face, 1000 points.

Yelling "FUCK ME, FUCK ME!" during intercourse...1000 points.

Wearing NO panties.....1000 points.

Wearing short skirts AND no panties....100,000 points (I'd drop to my knees and propose on the spot)


Again...sorry. But hold your head up high.

As a woman, you are WORTHY and as a bi woman, you are a GODDESS!

Good luck.

[HighEnergy]

When I read your first post, I felt bad for you. I thought I'd suggest a book about love addiction and yourself to a codependency or al anon meeting. Then I read your responses to Falcon. You'll probably feel I'm kicking you when you are down also, but sometimes it take a lot to get a person moving in the right direction.

My mother and my sister are always on about how all men are evil. My father was an abusive man, but my mother stayed there allowing it, both to herself and to her children.

The father of my first child hit me once. I let him feel guilty for a week, then I told him to get the fuck out. He came to see the child for a while and I was relatively nice to him, but kept my distance. Then he threatened to kill me for taking him to court for child support. And I took his ass to court and got a restraining order. He eventually quit paying and quit seeing his kid, so my exhusband adopted her. A backbone is a wonderful thing to have. If you don't presently have one, get one.

If you actually stayed there for Christmas and gave him those presents, take responsibility for your own actions. It might take you some time to realize that it takes two to tango. There are ways to improve yourself and get to the point where you can be in a healthy relationship. See first paragraph.

But whatever you do, get out now.

[Pixiedust]

For those who have a sense of kinship I thank you for your signs of support :) Venting about bullshit, regardless of what the topic is, is a normal thing not necessarily a sign that I, in this case, need someone to 'feel sorry for me'. This is one experience that I needed to get aired out, and I'm glad others had the opportunity to do the same.