Is a Troll real just a Troll?

[Mr. Magick]

Hi just a quick note and simple question would you concider this angry person a troll?

Here are a short sampling of his post tonight:

1. You can't even spell, write in coherent paragraphs, or even write that well.
I wouldn't trust you as being a piercer or for tattoos, and I certainly wouldn't trust you in doing other people's genital piercings!

2.This is total bullshit.
Food isn't addictive and if obese people really did try to lose weight, ate better food, and ate LESS and exercised MORE and quit making up excuses like "But it's in my dna!!!!!" we wouldn't have this problem with fat/obese people.

3. 5D-If you're going to be that much of a pussy about getting a dildo/vibrator or some sort of sex toy either at a store or online, you shouldn't buy any.

4. Polyamory and the philosophy behind it are a crock of shit. Yes I did read the bible on it the ethical slut and I still say this.
It's a polite way of saying you're into wife/partner swapping or that you have an open relationship/marriage and fuck other people.
I find it odd how people who are self defined poly look down upon swingers and people who are just honest and say that they're in an open relationship instead of having to use the new catchphrase/buzzword known as polyamory.

If you agree with me that he is a troll, please help him by not feeding his twisted obsession with attention. I have worked in psychiatrics for a number of years (though not currently) and I believe this kind of attention seeking behavior leads to serious psychological disorders. Please if you care at all about your fellow human beings Save this poor unfortunate from a life of hospitalization and medications. Please ignore him, but don't do it just for him do it for all of us, do it for all human kind. :bigrin:

[Mr. Magick]

Here's a quick update:

Pussy.
I always knew you're a bad fuck and totally unfuckable but c'mon now!
Stop hitting on Cherokee unless you like obese white trash.

See how much more aggressive he gets as time goes on, Clear sign of a troubled inividual.

[Mr. Magick]

Ahhhh now your litttle feelings are hurt poor baby.

[Mr. Magick]

you can't hurt my feelings friend, I really do feel sorry for you. Maybe if you tried stopping the personal attacks in all your posts people wouldn't think of you as a troll and if you have read the posts following yours, you would see I'm not the only one who thinks so. We try to respect each other here. and in light of that last statement I apollogize for making fun of you. Have a nice evening.

[mrplayfuluk]

after reading all of Black Fever's posts, I'm inclined to agree with you, Black Fever has an inability to show respect to other people with his every comment. He seems to have come online and blasted every single thread critically and has an inability to do it in a way that is constructive. Like tv, if you don't like the program change channels. Rather than pontificating in a cowardly way, maybe he should just move on. I hope Drew has seen his comments because he is constantly breaking the forum rules and his comments about Cat are downright personal... I will be ignoring him. Mutual respect is what has made this site's forum, compulsive viewing, it shouldn't be a shooting gallery for people to sign up to and then abuse. :2cents:

[Mr. Magick]

Yeah that comment about Cat kind of pissed me off. I've been away from the site for a while, getting my head on straight, but i don't enjoy seeing people I like attacked. Even if I don't know them very well.

[rissababynta]

Well, I've noticed that The Troll has always enjoyed using percentages and statistics, so a lot of times I notice this before all of the normal insults to the same people. This person is not that intelligent...can anyone say google?

[tnttogether]

yes agreed, this person must not have a life for that matter and obviously doesnt know how to be a decent person... he did the same in our thread and i found it totally rude and childish...
its a shame when people dont know how to act responsibly and respectful.
i guess this is the only way he thinks he can get attention... what a pity...
almost makes you feel sorry for such a lame person dont it??? notice i said almost... lol :tong:

[12voltman59]

We have tried ignoring him---Drew responds by deleting as soon as possible his most unpleasant postings and personalities--but yet---the guy keeps coming back----this has been going on well over a year now---I call him both "the drive by troll" and the EverReady Bunny of trolls----he just doesn't give it up---and some of us have tried extending him the hand of friendship and forgiveness--try to be understanding that he is a troubled person--but doing that--only seems to raise his ire even more-----so---we just have to deal with him when he makes his perioidic visits---lately---they had been somewhat reduced----but something may have set him off this week--perhaps it was the inauguration of Barack Obama.

Now---I just like to pick back at him when he sends me his "love notes"---since he does seem to focus on me for some reason----and try to use a bit of humor in regards to him when I say things like telling him he is a "MO-FO"!!!--just my way of both having some fun and getting out my exasperation and frustration at his continued outbursts--but I do recognize them for what they are----the times that he either goes off his meds or his meds can't handle his hyper/manic episodes.

While he does piss me off for sure at times----I really do actually feel sorry for him----it really is not good for his situation that he is free to roam the internet and doing what he does---you can be sure that he has other places on the Internet that he also frequents----but the biggest thing with him---it is obvious that he is not fully getting the full measure of help he desperately needs.

[**Peg**]

Black FEVER? ... or Blackout? either way the personality is a direct reflection of the state of his Black heart and mind. The "troll" appeared immediately after blackout got banned...... DUH ! (I had to say it and it was long overdue).

This "troll" attacks mainly people who wouldn't give him the time of day in the main room when he had his other identity. Cat, volty and kate all know what/who I mean.

[rissababynta]

Ya know, I vaguely remember this blackout person, but not a whole heck of a lot. Good observation though.



Thank goodness Drew is quick though. Thanks Drew!

[nothings5d]

The behavior of this troll, in particular his specific targeting of certain individuals, is very much like the behavior of a stalker. There is such a thing as an internet restraining order. Maybe we should look into getting one against the troll. Make it illegal for him to post on the website.

[onewhocares]

Well as someone who is an often frequent recipient of the trolls most prolific insults, comments, thoughts about how I should live my life, love and live with my husband, care for my personal hygiene and an assortment of extraordinary comments....I could care less about what he says about me. I have the most patience, toughest skin but the warmest and most open minded heart around. The one thing I do FEEL .....is sorry for such an individual...how little they have in their lives. My two cents.

Belle

[mrplayfuluk]

Can I suggest that everyone goes to his profile and clicks the ignore button. that way he won't be able to send private messages. and when ever he joins a debate just 'hop' over his threads and continue as if he wasn't there at least until Drew bans him once again. Also isn't it possible to spot his email address when he registers so he will have keep creating new ones which should get tedious eventually. So far he hasn't picked on me but having raised my profile no doubt I will be a target soon...

UPDATE

Brilliant! Drew has deleted all of his messages in the different forum threads!!!! Fight The Power now Black Fever!

[Lonewolf76]

Hi - I just posted a thread I entitled "Speaking of low life scummy trolls" Amazing enough one of the messages I received full of hatred and poison (which I included in my post) is from BLACKFEVER - this sicco is most definitely a TROLL - in fact I'll bet their pic is by the definition in the dictionary! What a sad excuse for a human being! As I mention in my post - I was going to reply to Blackfever - but they don't allow responses to their messages - IMAGINE THAT!!!! They get on here and trash everyone - but don't have the balls to be confronted.

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

lol I couldnt see his threads because I blocked his sorry ass last night after he accused me of stalking Him. Kisses to those of you who stood up for me. Muah!
I had never had any difficulties with Blackout, and dont know why he would be so hateful towards me, but he seems to target those who he thinks that his words would actually hurt.
Ah well. KArma watches, and she can be a Bitch when she wants to be. Small hearted people get theres..and not in a nice way.
Hugs and kisses Ya'll!:three:
Your Cat

[Lonewolf76]

Hi beautiful people,

I have a question pertaining to this very topic.... I recieved a private message from a virginiadarelives at this site as well as from the infamamous Blackfever (and I think he has a fever!) Her'es my question. I went to Blackfever's profile and placed him on my ignore list - not problem there. But when I went to go after virginiadarelives's profile - unless I missed it - it doesn't exist - what's up with that? Are they coming in from the outside of this site - how does one place them on the ignore list? If anyone can help - I really appreciate it - I want to shut these losers off! Thanks!!! LW

[rissababynta]

lol I couldnt see his threads because I blocked his sorry ass last night after he accused me of stalking Him. Kisses to those of you who stood up for me. Muah!
I had never had any difficulties with Blackout, and dont know why he would be so hateful towards me, but he seems to target those who he thinks that his words would actually hurt.
Ah well. KArma watches, and she can be a Bitch when she wants to be. Small hearted people get theres..and not in a nice way.
Hugs and kisses Ya'll!:three:
Your Cat

you are right that he targets those he sees as the ones who'll be hurt. He comes up with a hurtful idea and runs with it no matter how low it is...which is why he spoke about one of my children...

it's so sad.

[mrplayfuluk]

Hi beautiful people,

how does one place them on the ignore list? If anyone can help - I really appreciate it - I want to shut these losers off! Thanks!!! LW

go to the offenders profile and you will see the option to ignore then click on it and be done... forever

[wikskul]

I have to agree with what everyone has said here. i have seen many posts that this person has wrote.. and yes it is very offending and hurtfull, and nasty, and i appaluade Drew for being as quick as he can to remove those kinds of comments from the forum.. and i was thinking.. i know of a few sites that actually can block the IP addy.. it might be possible to look into that so that the person can not just make a new email addy to come back in.
anyways, when i see what this person writes... i am compelled to be reminded of bullies in school... those who are so unhappy that they would try to hurt anyone they felt were different from them... be it weight.... hight....intelligence....style.... body shape... what ever...
and would do it out of .. fear.. hate... pain.. whatever the reason.... this person seems to thrive on the attention and loves to .. well... fight... and try to hurt..
I appluade those of u who have had to deal with this person for as long as u have.. and not let the words said hurt u or cause u undue pain or suffering... which is why i love that i am here, i site that is for the most part.. filled with adults who would like to branchout, and discuss so many diferent things...
i Believe that as adults we pick n choose who comes into our lives.. and that inclueds the net... and when we read and respond to the hatefilled words that this person ( be it a man or woman) say.. and the actions this person does... we allow them to come into our lives in one form or another... i agree that the best thing is to ignor this person and in time.. when they are not getting and attention.. they will move on...
Just my :2cents:
Hugs n kisses to u all

[rissababynta]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8Yk2CDPbOc&feature=related

[12voltman59]

I do have to say--and I am sure he will like this when he is sure to read it upon his return---but I do take great offense to being called racist, homo and biphobic by this person---he does not know one thing about me and I think that everything about me says that I am not any of those things he somehow devines from my use of one phrase---that almost brings up "the Irish in me" (using the sterotypes of my tribe--- I'll go get a good buzz from drinking a few shots of Jamieson and downing a few pints of Black and Tan) then say to "our friend"---"Come on out lad--put up your dukes and fight like a man-- I sure am tellin' ya you sorry sot---I am going to kick your fookin' bloody arse from here to Sunday!!!"

But in the spirit of this being the time of many celebrations with streams and echos of history running through them: The birth of the late Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.; The bicentennial of the birth of Old Honest Abe Licoln, the Great Emancipator; ---and the inauguration of Barack Hussein Obama as the 44th president of the nation---

I will not say that and tell "our friend" instead--- while we hate your actions and way of doing things--- we love you and respect your humanity--even though you are not so gracious as to return the same courtesy in kind!!!!

[Mr. Magick]

:bigrin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8Yk2CDPbOc&feature=related:bigrin:

LMAO

[Mr. Magick]

I do have to say--and I am sure he will like this when he is sure to read it upon his return---but I do take great offense to being called racist, homo and biphobic by this person---he does not know one thing about me and I think that everything about me says that I am not any of those things he somehow devines from my use of one phrase---that almost brings up "the Irish in me" (using the sterotypes of my tribe--- I'll go get a good buzz from drinking a few shots of Jamieson and downing a few pints of Black and Tan) then say to "our friend"---"Come on out lad--put up your dukes and fight like a man-- I sure am tellin' ya you sorry sot---I am going to kick your fookin' bloody arse from here to Sunday!!!"

But in the spirit of this being the time of many celebrations with streams and echos of history running through them: The birth of the late Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.; The bicentennial of the birth of Old Honest Abe Licoln, the Great Emancipator; ---and the inauguration of Barack Hussein Obama as the 44th president of the nation---

I will not say that and tell "our friend" instead--- while we hate your actions and way of doing things--- we love you and respect your humanity--even though you are not so gracious as to return the same courtesy in kind!!!!

Here Here! Dr. King would be proud of you.

[FalconAngel]

I do have to say--and I am sure he will like this when he is sure to read it upon his return---but I do take great offense to being called racist, homo and biphobic by this person---he does not know one thing about me and I think that everything about me says that I am not any of those things he somehow devines from my use of one phrase---that almost brings up "the Irish in me" (using the sterotypes of my tribe--- I'll go get a good buzz from drinking a few shots of Jamieson and downing a few pints of Black and Tan) then say to "our friend"---"Come on out lad--put up your dukes and fight like a man-- I sure am tellin' ya you sorry sot---I am going to kick your fookin' bloody arse from here to Sunday!!!"

But in the spirit of this being the time of many celebrations with streams and echos of history running through them: The birth of the late Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.; The bicentennial of the birth of Old Honest Abe Licoln, the Great Emancipator; ---and the inauguration of Barack Hussein Obama as the 44th president of the nation---

I will not say that and tell "our friend" instead--- while we hate your actions and way of doing things--- we love you and respect your humanity--even though you are not so gracious as to return the same courtesy in kind!!!!


If it's any consolation, Volty, it is always the racists that are the first ones to point the finger and cry racist, so he will love it.:devil:

[vittoria]

Black FEVER? ... or Blackout? either way the personality is a direct reflection of the state of his Black heart and mind. The "troll" appeared immediately after blackout got banned...... DUH ! (I had to say it and it was long overdue).

This "troll" attacks mainly people who wouldn't give him the time of day in the main room when he had his other identity. Cat, volty and kate all know what/who I mean.

I know whom you are referring to as well...

However..

There's just a few things that dont sit quite right with that analogy. He reminds me of someone else... someone that uses the same exact debasing BS in his defensive conversations, the same type of lingo, the same type of almost everything. Reminds me of a bra size actually....

[onewhocares]

you are right that he targets those he sees as the ones who'll be hurt. He comes up with a hurtful idea and runs with it no matter how low it is...which is why he spoke about one of my children...

it's so sad.

I agree to a point Rissa...I believe that he target HE PERCEIVES he could hurt. What I have found is that in reality those of us whom he so venomously selects as his targets are in fact some of the strongest people on this site. I know that none of us is the kind to just fade into the wood work, we stand up for ourselves, our thoughts, our beliefs, our lifestyle and our fellow members. My premise has been...you can say whatever you want about me...but if you pick on a friend watch out for your sorry ass cause I will come after you with a force that will blow you out of the water. At times I find the comments so inane that I laugh hysterically......and feel sorry for the writer.

Belle

[rissababynta]

I agree to a point Rissa...I believe that he target HE PERCEIVES he could hurt. What I have found is that in reality those of us whom he so venomously selects as his targets are in fact some of the strongest people on this site. I know that none of us is the kind to just fade into the wood work, we stand up for ourselves, our thoughts, our beliefs, our lifestyle and our fellow members. My premise has been...you can say whatever you want about me...but if you pick on a friend watch out for your sorry ass cause I will come after you with a force that will blow you out of the water. At times I find the comments so inane that I laugh hysterically......and feel sorry for the writer.

Belle

God I feel sorry for them all of the time. I feel sorry that they are so overly BORING that they have to say the same things every single time. And when they realize that they need something new, instead of being a little more creative, they just get meaner...which is lame but oh well.

[darkeyes]

God I feel sorry for them all of the time. I feel sorry that they are so overly BORING that they have to say the same things every single time. And when they realize that they need something new, instead of being a little more creative, they just get meaner...which is lame but oh well.

...an show 'emsels up for wot they r...lakkin in imagination, wit, common decency, courage, an ne sensa a humanity.. they r vindictive, bigotted, sleezy, sneaky and stupid..wot a way 2 liveya life..:eek: Mus b awful goin through life wiv a brain smaller than a mollusc's..:tong:

[trubipoly]

If you click ignore to someones profle you will not see thier post in the forums either. well you will see that they posted but thier post will not be attached to it. I clicked ignore on him a while ago.

[mrplayfuluk]

Mus b awful goin through life wiv a brain smaller than a mollusc's..:tong:[/QUOTE]

yup and the irony its usually in a big head so it must hurt as it bounces around in all that vacuous space.

My father gave me a wonderful phrase the other day.....

'arrogance is a strength of the weak' and that one applies to all trolls....

[PearlGirl]

Dear Black Fever:

I response to your p.m. I would suggest you check out the following links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_marriage_styles

http://main.bisexual.com/forum/showthread.php?t=270

Quote: "Let's not forget that 95% of open or 3 way relationships fail and even you're not in one."

What is your source for the 95% figure and where did you ever get any idea about what relationship style I am personally involved in?

Quote: "What you're saying is that what you call polyamory is nothing more than an open relationship."

Uh...WHERE have I said that exactly?

Quote: "Polyamory is still nothing more than another definition for just saying that you're in nothing more than an open relationship..." "...polyamory/swinging are nothing but having an open relationship.".

Swinging (or the outdated sexist term wife-swapping) and polyamory are both forms of open relationships. Polyamory is not a form of swinging nor is swinging a form of polyamory.

Quote: "People want to see themselves as special and separate they don't like to be reminded that they're not. Most people (including yourself) NEED sugar coating bullshit like saying that polyamory isn't an open relationship at all, to sleep at night, sweetie."

I am special. Don't you see yourself as special? I certainly hope you do. I am an advocate for social and economic justice. I know a better world is possible and I've worked my for entire personal and professional life to bring that better world to be in the here and now.

Fourier believed that the second most corrupting force in society after capitalism was monogamous marriage. The high divorce and domestic violence rates (among other indicators) show me that relationship concepts need to be re-worked into something more ideal. I can choose any labels I want to and so can you. We can even debate the underlying philosophies our choices and labels are based around. Last time I checked there are no label police. Call yourself and your relationships whatever you want. I will continue to do the same.

As for what "I NEED to sleep at night". Respectfully, that is none of your business. I've had relationships I've called "open" I've had relationships I called "polyamorous" and it is possible that "swinging" AND polyamory can exist in the same relationship with different partners. Personally swinging has not been something I am interested in. That's my choice. You are free to make your own as are the rest of us.

:compuser: :grouphug: :cutelaugh

[Mr. Magick]

Dear Black Fever:

I response to your p.m. I would suggest you check out the following links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_marriage_styles

http://main.bisexual.com/forum/showthread.php?t=270

Quote: "Let's not forget that 95% of open or 3 way relationships fail and even you're not in one."

What is your source for the 95% figure and where did you ever get any idea about what relationship style I am personally involved in?

Quote: "What you're saying is that what you call polyamory is nothing more than an open relationship."

Uh...WHERE have I said that exactly?

Quote: "Polyamory is still nothing more than another definition for just saying that you're in nothing more than an open relationship..." "...polyamory/swinging are nothing but having an open relationship.".

Swinging (or the outdated sexist term wife-swapping) and polyamory are both forms of open relationships. Polyamory is not a form of swinging nor is swinging a form of polyamory.

Quote: "People want to see themselves as special and separate they don't like to be reminded that they're not. Most people (including yourself) NEED sugar coating bullshit like saying that polyamory isn't an open relationship at all, to sleep at night, sweetie."

I am special. Don't you see yourself as special? I certainly hope you do. I am an advocate for social and economic justice. I know a better world is possible and I've worked my for entire personal and professional life to bring that better world to be in the here and now.

Fourier believed that the second most corrupting force in society after capitalism was monogamous marriage. The high divorce and domestic violence rates (among other indicators) show me that relationship concepts need to be re-worked into something more ideal. I can choose any labels I want to and so can you. We can even debate the underlying philosophies our choices and labels are based around. Last time I checked there are no label police. Call yourself and your relationships whatever you want. I will continue to do the same.

As for what "I NEED to sleep at night". Respectfully, that is none of your business. I've had relationships I've called "open" I've had relationships I called "polyamorous" and it is possible that "swinging" AND polyamory can exist in the same relationship with different partners. Personally swinging has not been something I am interested in. That's my choice. You are free to make your own as are the rest of us.

:compuser: :grouphug: :cutelaugh

You are my new hero.

[12voltman59]

To Pearl and Magick---from one side--it is good to post up things that refute the crazy stuff that the troll posts up so anyone who MIGHT see some value in what he says can at least go find some FACTS to help them make up their own minds---but with HIM----it won't do any good---among his modes of operation----a core value of his is: "Don't confuse me with the facts----my mind is already made up!!" :bigrin::bigrin:

But like I said---it can't hurt to try!!!:bigrin::bigrin: