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Cherokee_Mountaincat
Mar 7, 2009, 4:51 AM
I would love to wholeheartedly recommend a great movie called "Served in Silence"

Its about a Col. in the Army that was going to be Court Marshelled for being an admitted Lesbian. This is a true story of a Col named Margretha (Greta)Cammeyer. She was outed after a superior Officer was reviewing her for clearence to be promoted to Chief Nurse in an Army Hospital.

She was a highly decorated Vietman Army Nurse and when the question was asked if she had any prior arrests, did drugs or committed any immoral acts she asked "When kinds of immoral acts are we talking about here, Sir?"
He explained, drunkenness, drug use, or homosexuality.
She told him plain out that she was a Lesbian (Even tho she had just came out to herself a few months prior)
This admission started the fall of a brilliant Army carrer.

It tells of the battles that she had to face with her family, her community, the military and herself. Its a Fantastic movie, loves.
See if you can find it in your local video store, or on line. Its very heart warming and touching, and shows the spirit of the American Gay and Lesbian community. ;)
Cat

PaulWaul
Mar 7, 2009, 11:19 AM
Yeah, it sounds like a really good movie, I'll watch it if I get the chance.

12voltman59
Mar 7, 2009, 12:04 PM
As a Vet, who is now finding an incredible number of other vets who are gay/bi---the military needs to face up to reality:

There are and have been, many thousands of military people who are not "STRAIGHT" that have and are serving the nation in this capacity with distinction and honor in both the officer corps and enlisted ranks--- I say to the powers that be in regards to military service of GLBT individuals:

GET WITH REALITY AND RECOGNIZE THIS FACT----IMMEDIATELY REMOVE ALL RESTRICTIONS ON THE SERVICE OF GLBT INDIVIDUALS!!!!!

I had heard about the case of this officer----she had an incredible record of service and the only thing that changed in this instance---the military became aware in an official capacity that she was a lesbian---what happened to in terms of her treatment by the military once the fact of her lesbianism became known was what was disgraceful in this case.

I didn't know they had made a move of it--thanks for informing us about it.

void()
Mar 7, 2009, 12:31 PM
Although it is quite sad, I appreciate the love story presented in Soldier's Girl (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0324013/). Really a damn shame people can be against any form of different. Personally, I would not rule out having a relationship with transformers. It may be a bit awkward from my end, admittedly from a little ignorance.

But ignorance can be overcome with patience, communication, compassion. No, I'm not a blundering idiot. I am awkward at any give around any people, it's a whole introvert thing. And no I'm not narcissistic or self centered, merely 'reserved' and respectful.

Lots of folks mistake that as stand offish, or indifferent. As a result they have trouble reaching out themselves, something to do with fearing the unknown. So, in the end it works out as a two way street. I don't reach out often, nor am I reached out for often.

That is often frustrating. But it is what it is. I am gradually working toward changing it. Though life has not always granted me a 'Care Bears' atmosphere in which to 'open up' into. So I go slow. I think many do, as well.

Hum ... Care Bears are Eeevil. I am Eeyore though, go figure. :)

FalconAngel
Mar 7, 2009, 3:22 PM
I remember, in the Army, that we had all sorts of folks serving that were Gay/Lesbian. The whole unit knew, but nobody cared, as long as they did their job like the rest of us.

Then there was the whole "security issue" with homosexuality. Well if they made it so that GLB folks could out themselves, then it wouldn't be an issue and that problem would go away completely.


The real problem is the neanderthals in the Pentagon and in Washington that cannot get used to reality. They won't let go of the issue for themselves, so they force their paranoia on the rest of the country and on the military.

It is a sad state for us all, that things are like that. A lot of dedicated military personnel have lost their careers over trivial things like that, while the real problems and the soldiers causing them get to keep their careers. It is a sad state indeed.

AshMash
Mar 11, 2009, 4:48 PM
i've actually seen this. it is VERY good! :)

rissababynta
Mar 11, 2009, 5:35 PM
Although I have heard that this is a good movie, I will not be watching it anytime soon. I have been trying to stear clear from any kind of military movies lately considering that my entire life seems to revolve around it lately. I need a gosh darn break. The last thing I want to see when I turn my tv on to get away from the world....is to see MORE military related things. Also, the whole topic of homosexuality and the military hits way too close to home right now and I have a feeling that I would be angry the entire movie...or at least for a better part of it.

Lonewolf76
Mar 15, 2009, 10:48 PM
I actually got to shake this ladies hand. She was a speaker at a medical function I attended several years ago. A great speaker, a compassionate nurse and a wonderful lady. I agree with the earlier comments. The military needs to step into the 21st century. I served for 24 years beside several LGB personnel. As Falconangel stated so well - we all knew just didn't care - they were doing their jobs - and as a sidebar - usually did their jobs more meticulously than everyone else! The old attitude of we can't have them in the military because it destroys good order and discipline is Bovine manure! And as mentioned earlier - allow them the freedom and safety to be who they are publicly and you won't have any security issues. Thanks again Cat - I too hadn't realized that they made a movie of the Col's life - I'll definitely look it up and watch! Pray for our troops! LW

MarieDelta
Mar 16, 2009, 10:40 AM
Although it is quite sad, I appreciate the love story presented in Soldier's Girl (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0324013/). Really a damn shame people can be against any form of different. Personally, I would not rule out having a relationship with transformers. It may be a bit awkward from my end, admittedly from a little ignorance.

But ignorance can be overcome with patience, communication, compassion. No, I'm not a blundering idiot. I am awkward at any give around any people, it's a whole introvert thing. And no I'm not narcissistic or self centered, merely 'reserved' and respectful.

Lots of folks mistake that as stand offish, or indifferent. As a result they have trouble reaching out themselves, something to do with fearing the unknown. So, in the end it works out as a two way street. I don't reach out often, nor am I reached out for often.

That is often frustrating. But it is what it is. I am gradually working toward changing it. Though life has not always granted me a 'Care Bears' atmosphere in which to 'open up' into. So I go slow. I think many do, as well.

Hum ... Care Bears are Eeevil. I am Eeyore though, go figure. :)

"Soldiers Girl" is an incredibly sad story. Calpernia Adams has my respect for having made it through intact.

"Served in Silence" - is another well told and made story.

For what its worth the glbt have always served in the US Military. In fact many transmen have served in the US Military prior to WW2 - Consider the story of Albert D. J. Cashier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Cashier) who was born physically female but lived as a male.