What are your thoughts on what should happen on a free (nudest) Beach

[daewoo69]

Hi All,
Reading one of the post's about "Tolls" got me thinking about what I refer as trolls.
Well in Darwin (Australia) we have what is called a free beach (nudist beach). Now I have no problems with people being nude, or having fun of any description on the beach, and I do know it is a common place on where gay/bi males can pick up.
But what gets me is that when I go there to just unwind, I constantly get hit on or asked if I want something.

I have even gone to the point of not making eye contact with anyone while being down there. But you have one or two trolls walking up and down the beach stroking there cocks while asking people up the beach.
Do you think this is wrong or unacceptable behavior?

:(

[keefs]

Hi All,
Reading one of the post's about "Tolls" got me thinking about what I refer as trolls.
Well in Darwin (Australia) we have what is called a free beach (nudist beach). Now I have no problems with people being nude, or having fun of any description on the beach, and I do know it is a common place on where gay/bi males can pick up.
But what gets me is that when I go there to just unwind, I constantly get hit on or asked if I want something.

I have even gone to the point of not making eye contact with anyone while being down there. But you have one or two trolls walking up and down the beach stroking there cocks while asking people up the beach.
Do you think this is wrong or unacceptable behavior?

:(

nothing wrong with playing with cocks on nudist beaches great fun

[Michele Mayelle]

I think the time for you to worry is when people STOP hitting on you, as then you will know you are no longer desirable. I thoroughly enjoy people hitting on me as then I know I still have "something" they are interested in & it's up to me whether or not I choose to respond. At the end of the day you belong to this bisexual site which must mean you are interested in both sexes, so why worry if a guy that fancies you try's to show it, all you need do is look away to show your not interested, he will soon get the message & leave you alone.

[daewoo69]

I may not have explained myself clearly with this. What I find offensive is that the constant 'do you want to do something' or 'do you want this'. This is without any hi how you going or ant type of small chat. I don’t have a problem with someone stroking there dick, but walking up and down the beach and getting asked by the same people 3 to 4 times in an hour is a bit offensive to me. In saying that do people think that this is appropriate behavior?

[69luvr]

I think that people should be more respectful on a nude beach. Some, not all, are there for that reason. some are sun worshippers. There are always discreet locations on a nude beach where one can go to do their "thing". I do.

[rissababynta]

I think that those people acting that way are making all nudists look bad...people think of a nudist and they think of a pervert half the time...which they are not...but this people just add to the negative view towards nudists...

[12voltman59]

I have experienced the same thing too---it is a bit disconcerting for someone to just come up to ya and ask right off the bat if ya want to do something sexual without at least having some minimal amount of interaction beforehand---at the very least you want to get some sorta sense of the kind of person they are--do they seem to not be a total nutcase or an axe killer or something--you would think that they would want to find out the same thing about you.

Of course---there is the whole issue of not only is the person going to try to kill you or something??-----you have to worry about sexually transmitted diseases and someone who will just come up to you out of the blue----ask if you want to engage in some sort of sex act is someone who obviously has thrown good judgement and safe sex out the window!! That alone makes me figure that I wouldn't want to have anything to do with them for a whole host of reasons.

I am much more amenable to someone who comes on easy----just wants to hang out at first so we can try to get to know each other--and over the course of a few hours or whatever see if there seems to be something there--- then you can't wait to jump each other's bones---you leave the beach--go to one of your places or get a room and have sex all night long!!


To echo the comments of others---it is so rare that you get public nude beaches anymore because people do freak out that such places have a reputation of being places where perverts hang out for sex--when the reality is that most people who do like to go nude--it has nothing at all to do with sex---it is merely going out and enjoying nature in your natural state--without having to wear a piece of clothing for a damn change---it is that some people do go to nude places for sex and not the nudity that fracks things up-----so its those kind of people who get nude beaches shut down by bible thumper types---those people cruising for casual sex hookups on a nude beach--especially gay men who do it--just plays into the hands of the conservative types who if they had their druthers----would make homosexual acts punishable by death or at least by long and harsh imprisonment and/or punishment.

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

I agree wholeheartedly with Rissa and WHite Rabbit. From what I know of nude beaches, people are just there to follow their particular love of sun worshiping, and many times there are little kids at these places. Its not normally a hook up spot. (Unless its an all adult place of course)
To me its not acceptable for some stranger to walk up and go, "Hey wanna fuck?" I'm afraid that would tick me off slightly.
Its very inappropreate in my humble opinion.
Cat

[Long Duck Dong]

if I was laying down on a nudist beach and somebody was that rude that they did that, I would react in one of 2 ways, .... either ask for a microscope.... or say I am a doctor and concerned about that discharge.....

[welickit]

No offense intended but we think you are on an EGO trip and seeing something that isn't there in reality. If you are actually offended you would go elsewhere.

[Lonewolf76]

Bad manners are bad manners - with or without your clothes on. Personally, if someone is intersted enough to approach and ask (the first time) I feel slightly complimented - as an earlier poster noted - I know I still have something that attracts them. But if I say no - they had better not bug me again or they've crossed the line and are now just being a rude asshole. As Volty mentioned - I prefer an "Easy" approach - that will get you light years further than "Hey - ya wanna!" It's the same in a bar/club - approach and ask is ok - BUT NO MEANS NO. As for walking up and down and playing with their dangly bits - my humble opinion on that is - to each his own - I don't see any harm there. Wolfie

[jamieknyc]

I don't know what they do elsewhere, but on nude beaches in the Northeast, no sexual activity is tolerated, because people who go to nude beaches know that is the sort of thing that gets nude beaches shut down..

[mrplayfuluk]

No offense intended but we think you are on an EGO trip and seeing something that isn't there in reality. If you are actually offended you would go elsewhere.

you have either never been on a nudist beach or as bad as those who ask.

In Europe you would either be laughed at or punched in the face and believe me there are plenty of nude beaches there thanks to the Germans love of nudism.

rude is rude, sad is sad.....

:mad::mad::mad::mad:

[FalconAngel]

I believe that there should be a certain etiquette for such places. A similar type of etiquette that is used at swingers clubs and such should be the norm.

Now in the cases of nude beaches in Europe, which from some of the videos that I have seen, appear to be more family/nudist lifestyle oriented, it should be the same as on any other beach in the world.

In the case of adults only beaches, about anything goes, I would think. But even then, if someone is there to just get some sun (it may be the only nude beach in the area), then you leave them alone when they indicate that they are not there to "hook up".

Let's face it. Here in Ft. Lauderdale, we have a beach that is, unofficially, the Gay beach. For getting sun, that is where the GLBT community tends to go, in this area.
It's not a nude beach (our Nude Beach is at Haulover Beach's north end in North Miami) So, if you go to that part of the beach, then don't be surprised if you get hit on more than average if you go to that part of the beach to get some sun.

But I digress. The point is that it happens and there is little to do about it as individuals.
The folks that go to the nude beaches often should find some balance of what is a common acceptable behavior standard, at least from the perspective of "adults only" nude beaches, since the nudist lifestyle beaches use the same standards as the regular beaches, I would imagine.

[flyer]

I am not sure what should happen on a nudist beach, but I do know what does happen, and in my case has happened. It is hard to believe that the human being isn't "hard wired" to love the sight of a tanned body against the colour of sand, their profile against a blue sky or the tactile sensation of a nude body on sunbaked rocks. We are nude, we are happy, we are aroused on a nudist beach - it is a beautiful experience. To go through life without ever hearing the sound of the lapping waves or the smell of salt while you run your hands over someone's naked thighs warmed by the sun would be sad indeed. Discretion is natural, but so is excitement and adventure. Oh to be human! We were there, on the beach, before swimming costumes and frigid inhibition were invented.

[FalconAngel]

I am not sure what should happen on a nudist beach, but I do know what does happen, and in my case has happened. It is hard to believe that the human being isn't "hard wired" to love the sight of a tanned body against the colour of sand, their profile against a blue sky or the tactile sensation of a nude body on sunbaked rocks. We are nude, we are happy, we are aroused on a nudist beach - it is a beautiful experience. To go through life without ever hearing the sound of the lapping waves or the smell of salt while you run your hands over someone's naked thighs warmed by the sun would be sad indeed. Discretion is natural, but so is excitement and adventure. Oh to be human! We were there, on the beach, before swimming costumes and frigid inhibition were invented.

Okay.

Enough teasing, just stick to the subject before someone gets horney.:bigrin::tong:

[Bisexual Explorer]

The only difference between a nude beach and other beaches is clothing. Otherwise, the same rules of etiquette should apply. Nuf said.
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[flyer]

The beaches I know seem to have sections with unmarked boundaries. There's the fully clothed family section, perhaps a separate beach altogether, then the topless bit, then the fully but tastefully nude (the occasional discreet bather or couple), then the more full-on nude and then the, well, horney male bit where "things" might happen (though this is usually out of sight in the dunes). America seems to have a horror of public nudity or sexuality bordering on the pathological and yet provides the world with most of its pornography – a strange mix. I am going to start two new threads: the first will ask whether you have ever been rebuffed for making a sexual approach (e.g. at a party). The second will be whether you have ever had sex on a beach. The level of indignation expressed here by otherwise confident adults is surprising – there is more going on in the world than you might imagine.

[12voltman59]

The first time I ever went nude in a public fashion was back in the early '80s---I was in the Coast Guard then and after boot camp in New Jersey--headed west for some training at a Coast Guard training center outside of Petaluma, California---which is in Sonoma County---about one hour north of San Francisco.

Me and some adventorous buddies at the school found that they had "nude places" along the Russian River not too far from the coast.

We of course went to the "straight area" and there were people there that ranged in age from babies just out of the womb to ancient ones. There was a strict, self-enforced policy of no sexual activity whatsoever at that spot--about a half mile along that section of the river--it was always full of people and I never ever saw any sort of sexual thing going on--if someone did--I was told that those who considered it their place to take care of the spot dealt with that forthwith--same goes for doing something like taking drugs, being too drunk or leaving trash around.

Now--from having taken a canoe trip down the river one weekend--we did find that there were some spots were gays, lesbians and straight people did hook up for sex and engaged in it--at least in deep groves of some sort of plants that grew along the river.

This was the Age of Ronald Reagan and following in the footsteps of 'being all law and orderly" Sonoma Country got a new, very conservative, Law and Order, Republican Sheriff---one of the highest priorities of the new Sheriff was to rid the Russian River of all that nudity and perversity!! The Sheriff was a buddy of Reagan's Attorney General, Ed Meese--kinda looked like him too!

He and his men began to raid the spots that people were known to be having sex--but the efforts were so heavy handed that some people started a recall effort to boot the guy---I don't know how that went since I wasn't there long enough--I still don't know if nudity was eliminated from the banks of the river or not--I sure hope not---but I would not doubt if going nude along the Russian River--at least in any kind of open way is long gone--that was one of the reasons I sorta got a bad taste in my mouth for conservatism--so much for Ronald Reagan and those who loved him following one of their mantras--"we are going to get the government off the backs of the people!!"

Yeah right---the only government getting off the back they wanted was to let corporations and big business pretty do any damn thing they wanted--but if you, the average Joe and Jane wanted to do things like go nude, read or watch porn, smoke pot--the Reagan Adminstration and state and local governments following along in Reagan's wake were more than happy to use the long arm of the law to stop ya from doin' those kinds of things and more!!!

Another thing with the Regan Administration and public nudity--up to that point--the US Forest Service and other US federal agencies that deal with federal lands---- they had a long standing pollicy dating back to the creation of those lands and agencies--that in remote areas----as long as you were "merely nude" and did not do anything "lewd and lacivious"---the policy was to let people go nude----they asked you that if someone came in your area and they objected to your being nude to your face---then to please put your clothes back on till they left--and even if someone had called park officials about someone being nude--when Rangers responded--as long as the nude people were just lying out or skinny dipping and not doing anything sexual--they would just be asked to "rerobe" and no citation would be written--but when Reagan took office---it became Federal policy that nudity was no longer acceptable at all---and if caught--you could at least be cited or worse--get arrested and charged with varying levels of crimes up to and including a felony simply for being nude. This greatly upset many in the Naturist movement in those days--you had people who were nearly a hundred who had gone to such places for years and it was no problem--now--here comes good old Ronnie and Company and they were criminals!!

I guess that the policy has been changed to some degree-but it depends on what parks you are in--now it never was acceptable to be nude at a place like at a concession stand in Yosemite of course---but I am talking about out in the more remote areas--and today--with cutbacks in rangers and other park personnel--way out in a remote area--you probably won't see a ranger or warden--but ya never know--and if ya do get caught naked---get covered up fast and be respectful to the officer--hopefully he or she will at worst--just give ya a citation and that is that--maybe they will just give ya a warning--but for a time during the Reagan years---you were probably gonna pay a fine and do some time!

These days though--in many of the parks out west---go roaming out in a remote area and you might find yourself face to face with someone growing a pot patch and staring down his AK-47!!

[citystyleguy]

I agree wholeheartedly with Rissa and WHite Rabbit. From what I know of nude beaches, people are just there to follow their particular love of sun worshiping, and many times there are little kids at these places. Its not normally a hook up spot. (Unless its an all adult place of course)
To me its not acceptable for some stranger to walk up and go, "Hey wanna fuck?" I'm afraid that would tick me off slightly.
Its very inappropreate in my humble opinion.
Cat

...pretty much says it all here; i only expand on the idea, that hitting on some one is not so much the problem, as the approach. whether a beach, nude or otherwise, to a cafe, or even a damn bar or nightclub, when the first thing out your mouth is 'wanna fuck' , you can bet you'll get a big NO, and then, you return with the same line, all bets are off on the reply. :2cents:

[sqa7742]

I've only been to a couple nude beaches in Southern Cal. They definitely seem to self-separate like others have described. You have the friendly "naturist" section with very non-sexual couples, families, etc., and then you have fringe areas more geared towards cruising.

Most of the cruising seems to go on in the sheltered areas on the edge of the beaches, the bushes behind the dunes, etc.

Honestly, I think walking up and down the beach stroking your dick is really uncalled for, in the same way I wouldn't walk up and down the beach stroking my ass. If you want to hit on someone, at least make some damn eye contact.
:)

[matterinhand]

"To echo the comments of others---it is so rare that you get public nude beaches anymore because people do freak out that such places have a reputation of being places where perverts hang out for sex--when the reality is that most people who do like to go nude--it has nothing at all to do with sex---it is merely going out and enjoying nature in your natural state--without having to wear a piece of clothing for a damn change---it is that some people do go to nude places for sex and not the nudity that fracks things up-----so its those kind of people who get nude beaches shut down by bible thumper types---those people cruising for casual sex hookups on a nude beach--especially gay men who do it--just plays into the hands of the conservative types who if they had their druthers----would make homosexual acts punishable by death or at least by long and harsh imprisonment and/or punishment."

Its the people (mainly men) of all persuasions (Straight, bi, gay) that cause councils to try to close beaches to nudists by making their intentions obvious.
I've been to many nudist beaches, the ones that have fewest problem makers are the ones where they are murder to get to by public transport.
And yes, I've done things with men at beaches, but its been in the dunes and well secluded rather than actually on the beach.

[welickit]

Interesting reply above from MrplayfulUk to our post. Perhaps we should have included the fact that we are nudists (we even have membership cards) and that we lived in Germany for six years. If you are at all familiar with Morfelden you know about the nudist sand pits there. Both the main area and the more secluded back area. We don't care what country you are from, there is a major difference between a nudist beach and a gut hole where gays with no sense gather and assume it is an open meat market. Nudism and sex are two different things, most obnoxious males can't see a difference.:2cents:

[12voltman59]

From going to both nude beaches/resorts where a degree of decorum is expected and pretty well enforced by those who either own/manage the private places and at public ones---you have those longtimers who more or less serve as "guardians" of those places----you really have a rather subdued sexual vibe----but go to some of the public beaches where clothing is required but yet they have a rep as a "pick up place"--the sexual vibe is really strong.

It was like that at some of the non-nude beaches around Miami---- especially at the beaches the straight Cuban kids went to hook up-----WOW--those places rock of sexual vibes and reek of hormomes gone wild---but go to one of the privately owned nudist resorts in South Florida---and the sexual vibes there were almost nil.

When a place that is nude is affiliated in some fashion with those who consider themselves "naturists" and not merely nudists and most users are often members of one of the naturist organizations-----they fought so hard to gain some level of acceptance of nudity over the years---that they long ago made sure places where nudity is practiced did not have a reputation for being highly sexualized.

It is an interesting thing that once you accept the concept of enjoying nudity for nudity's sake----going nude does lose a great deal of its sexual connotations.

I never have gone to any gay nude resorts---so I don't know what is the vibe at them---I am sure that if they are on private property---they are more accepting of open sexuality to at least some degree.

I did get bummed that at a public beach like Playalinda/Canaveral Seashore near Daytona----it was some of the open sexuality taking place at the "gay" sections" that lead to a crackdown by Federal Park Rangers for a time----but I am glad to know that nudity is still allowed there.

[mikey3000]

I like to go to the nude beach to get some sun, swim, and browse hot bodies. I do not like to be constantly propisioned on a public beach. It is that kind of sexual behaviour that will get the nude beaches shut down, upsetting all the true naturists that enjoy that peaceful way of life. Nudity and sexuality do not have to be mutually inclusive. There is nothing more beautiful than a naked human body. And I do like to look at them, but not lust after them in public. For me, total nudity is a beautiful and liberating experience. On the other hand, partial nudity can be extremely arousing and does serve it's purpose too (nice short shirt and high heals on a woman, or a man's shirt partially unbuttoned to reveal a nice hairy chest... yum!!!)

[jamiehue]

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[boca.openminded]

I believe that there should be a certain etiquette for such places. A similar type of etiquette that is used at swingers clubs and such should be the norm.

Now in the cases of nude beaches in Europe, which from some of the videos that I have seen, appear to be more family/nudist lifestyle oriented, it should be the same as on any other beach in the world.

In the case of adults only beaches, about anything goes, I would think. But even then, if someone is there to just get some sun (it may be the only nude beach in the area), then you leave them alone when they indicate that they are not there to "hook up".

Let's face it. Here in Ft. Lauderdale, we have a beach that is, unofficially, the Gay beach. For getting sun, that is where the GLBT community tends to go, in this area.
It's not a nude beach (our Nude Beach is at Haulover Beach's north end in North Miami) So, if you go to that part of the beach, then don't be surprised if you get hit on more than average if you go to that part of the beach to get some sun.

But I digress. The point is that it happens and there is little to do about it as individuals.
The folks that go to the nude beaches often should find some balance of what is a common acceptable behavior standard, at least from the perspective of "adults only" nude beaches, since the nudist lifestyle beaches use the same standards as the regular beaches, I would imagine.


as usual I agree with you. I've been to Haulover (clothing optional beach) and there are 2 sides: gay & family oriented...

If you go on the gay side it is wild / fun and a bit of a meat market. This beach is state governed which means it has lifeguards and cops that patrol the area. If you are caught taking pictures OR having any sexual experience, you will get arrested.

The family side (basically a lifeguard tower divides the 2 sides) you will see alot of husband & wives, singles, and even people wearing bathing suits, and yes you do sometimes see children.

Bottom line is you act & treat others the same way at a nudist beach as you would at a clothed beach.

[jamieknyc]

I just came from the nude beach (yes, I was nude, and yes, it has been warm enough) and there was no sexual activity of any type going on, nor would any have been tolerated.